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May 23rd, 2007


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On September 22, 2004, after watching the premiere of Lost with Melanie, I literally ran back to my apartment to catch the premiere of a little show called Veronica Mars that I had heard quite a bit of buzz about. I left as soon as that Executive Producer credit hit the screen; I had my television set to UPN so I could just turn it on as soon as I walked in. I may have missed the first few seconds, and I was very close to turning it off for much of the first half, but I ran to see it for the first time. Before I even saw a single second. That's love. It was love before first sight.

On May 22, 2007, I squeezed gymble and her husband, schnappycat and her husband, holly96, beeker121, upanashad, aiglet, cadhla, sophia_helix and her husband (actoplasm), and lodessa and her boyfriend into my apartment. I was not alone this time.

The penultimate episode of Veronica Mars was damn good. It definitely felt more like the show than some of the rest of the season, not only because it was Weevil-centric but because it felt really well paced. The mystery was fucking intriguing, and the character stuff rang true and interesting.

I loved that the MOTW involved actual, honest-to-god detectiving, and Veronica clearly got a kick out of saying, "I'm a private investigator." As long as she doesn't brag about that lousy 95. She interviewed witnesses (loved the book-fine idea, hee ("And, what, you're working undercover in the library?")), checked out alibis, did research, and made connections others couldn't. That's our Veronica. And you know it's not about the money at all. She'd do this shit for free, and she does on many an occasion.

(Sorry, I'm tearing up now. I can't believe we've lost her.)

Again, I was really distracted watching scenes we'd seen being filmed because we'd heard the dialogue over and over again out of context, so it was hard to place it in context; hearing it on TV just made me hear it out of context again. A few notes: I sat in on the casting session for Jalyssa Jones, and originally there was an amusing joke about her thinking Fibonacci was a "racecar driver." It was a good punchline, and then...they replaced it with a complete lack of punchline. Because, what, they didn't think the audience would know who Fibonacci was? Or they didn't want to make the black girl sound stupid? The scene with Leon came off better than I expected because there was a lot of trouble getting that shot of the files being missing. First, there were no files there to flip through. And then it never seemed like the actor got the timing right, since there's a pause in the script for him to realize his files are missing. There was always this interminable, fake silence in between the lines. It looks like there was at least one good take, though. Finally, that shot of Weevil holding the machine at the end? The first few takes, he was holding it the wrong way, so you couldn't read the company name.

I loved how much evidence was stacking against Weevil, and then I love that the answer wasn't obvious, that it was more complicated than it seemed. Conspiracy of rich kids! Awesome! Loved the multiple vampire references. Loved Veronica's bluff (and loved the continuing answering machine gag that turned into a minor plot point). Loved the return of class conflict, one of the hallmarks of the show. If there's one thing Veronica hates, it's rich kids being assholes. And idiots. I mean, really, you used obviously fake names and you got caught? WHO'DA THUNK? I don't know what we're supposed to take away from the end, though, with Weevil. He wasn't part of it to begin with, but now, what? He's going to get into the biz? He's covering up for them? He's going to blackmail them? IS THIS A SEASON FOUR THING WE WILL NEVER GET TO SEE?

Nice to see the continued degeneration of Dick, and incredibly freaky to see him apologize to Mac. I almost thought they were suddenly giving the Mac/Dick 'shippers their due after a year, but Mac had some sense. They actually made it work for a crazy moment, though, on Dick's side, at least, which was impressive.

Wallace! Flying a plane! Pilot callback! Whee.

"Score one for Teen People." Haaaaaaaaa.

The Keith/Vinnie debate was damn hilarious! I mean, it almost made that whole underage drinking plot worth it, now that we know the writers are well aware of its absurdity. We also know that Vinnie is against things like "murder" and "terrorism."

The Veronica/Piz LDR role-play was kind of sweet, but it would have been sweeter if we at all believed Veronica was into it. It was hard to accept Veronica's claim of "honest and direct" when it sorta seemed dishonest. I buy that she wants to miss him, though. She's a detective, but she's a girl, too.

And then there's Logan...being Logan. He always responds with violence! It's just his way. Beating the shit out of Piz is something I'm sure he's wanted to do on principle for a long time, and now he has an excuse.

Then, hey!! This...kind of is a two-part finale! Oh my God!

The last episode. The very last episode. The final finale.

Wallace. Oh, Wallace. BFF to the end. He wore an electroshock collar for her. That shit was fucking freaky. And they brought back his seedy season two past! But I'm getting ahead of myself.

"Follow the video trail" was awesome. Chip Diller was so scared of what Veronica would do to him. And then, Domonick got PWNED by Veronica and Weevil! This is what we love, when Veronica gets all righteous on people who deserve it. lodessa said, "It's just like season one again," a few seconds before Veronica said, "It's like being back in high school." Shelly Pomroy's party, part two! (Also: whoever thought of the title "Emission to Mars"? OH MY GOD EW BUT HA HA HA.) Veronica's rendition of "Bad Day" was hil-fucking-arious, especially because I'd just heard that song for maybe the second time in my life a few weeks ago and recognized it as that "Bad Day" song that was apparently so popular (that was not the Fuel song of the same name).

And then...JAKE KANE! FOR SOME REASON! The whole "Jake Kane is King of The Castle" thing was kind of weird because, honestly, there is no reason that had to be Jake Kane. I'm not even sure it makes much sense for it to be Jake Kane, especially since he barely acted like Jake Kane at all, but we got Clarence Wiedman out of the deal, so we can't complain all that much. Plus, freakyass big portraits of Lilly and Duncan. Aw.

Nish! They do love bringing back characters on this show. It's almost a bylaw of the writing staff: "Why make up a new character when this old character will work just fine, and we like the actor?" I'm really not sure how I feel about Veronica exposing the secret society. She just gave her the names, though, right? That can't be too harmful.

Parker broke up with Logan. My, that wasn't surprising in the least. It's about time, girl.

schnappycat pointed out filmtx's cameo! Lookee! She gave Veronica change! And then said lines like "Next" and "Thank you" and "Who's next?" even though she didn't have a SAG card!

Veronica/Taser FTW! The scene with Piz telling her to put it away was a nice bookend to the scene in the premiere, when Logan, on the other hand, did the Tasering himself. Because Logan knows Veronica. Piz clearly doesn't. Piz can't handle Veronica's thirst for vengeance as demonstrated in this episode.

When Sorokin taunted Veronica and walked away, I said, "[Logan,] You can beat him up." And he listened to me and advanced toward him, and we all cracked the hell up. Then Logan beat the crap out of him because nobody messes with Veronica, you fools. Apology accepted! And he even apologizes to Piz, perfunctorily but sincerely.

As painful as it was to watch, Keith destroying evidence to protect Veronica was a lovely act in a morally gray area. The things we do for the people we love. These are the notes the series ends on, thankfully. Not Logan and Veronica spinny-kissing in the hall, but Keith and Veronica showing each other how much they love each other.

This is why I was terribly afraid Keith was going to die. Whenever you have a random declaration of love, it means one of them is going to die. But no one died but the show.

The series ends with Veronica voting for Keith and walking away in the dreary rain. Things have come full circle. The town of Neptune is going to vote Keith out of office again, with only Veronica sticking by him.

But it won't be just Veronica. Wallace will stick by him. So will Mac. Even Logan will. I'm willing to bet that everyone Veronica has ever helped in the last three years will stick by Keith. Mandy will be Keith's #1 fan. It's all about the journey, and the lives you've affected.

I wish the series hadn't gone out on such a depressing note, but that's noir, baby. The good never prevail. I'm just glad the show went out strong. The last two episodes were meatier than the three episodes before them combined. I can hardly believe that was only two episodes' worth of material. They were packed.

I want to know what happens next, dammit.

After the show was over, the fourteen of us stood around and talked about television, LiveJournal, grammar, and other sundry things for over an hour. It's all about the journey, and the lives you've affected. The show may be gone, but the friendships we formed because of it will remain.
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From:alliterator
Date:May 23rd, 2007 08:58 am (UTC)
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There is not enough WORD in the world for this post.

In conclusion: NOIR, BABY!
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From:alliterator
Date:May 23rd, 2007 08:59 am (UTC)
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Oh, forgot to use this icon. Completely fitting.
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From:apriljoiex
Date:May 23rd, 2007 08:59 am (UTC)
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Screw it. That was beautiful. And the tears they flow. I can't believe she's really gone.
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From:snoopypez
Date:May 23rd, 2007 09:10 am (UTC)
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:( I miss the show so MUCH already.

(I actually disagree that Veronica was not at all into the LDR role play thing. I mean, obviously she won't miss him as much as he misses her, but how is that any different than all her other relationships? ;P Sheesh, seriously, now that I think about it, the only male she seems to love as much as he loves her would be Keith. But anyway, I found her a little more convincing than you did. And I don't know why I'm rambling in parentheses like this. It's lame. I should stop.)
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From:spadada
Date:May 23rd, 2007 09:58 am (UTC)
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Veronica/Taser FTW! The scene with Piz telling her to put it away was a nice bookend to the scene in the premiere, when Logan, on the other hand, did the Tasering himself. Because Logan knows Veronica. Piz clearly doesn't. Piz can't handle Veronica's thirst for vengeance as demonstrated in this episode.

Remember when Logan watching her work a case and got all hot and Duncan was all shocked and confused? Piz is just clueless. AND ROB GETS IT. It was not even really subtext. It was just obvious. But not heavy-handed. Man am I tired...

I'll say it now. And I will cry again. What are we going to do Sunil?
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From:apriljoiex
Date:May 23rd, 2007 10:03 am (UTC)
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And when, in the last scene, Veronica just sits there and lets that Goran guy talk shit to her and Logan notices that it doesn't seem like her just to shrug it off. She agrees with a face. Contrast that with the previous scene in the Cafeteria where Piz was telling her to let karma dole out justice, or whatever, not Veronica's style at all.... Logan would have let her tazer the guy (or as he did before, do it himself), that's the only kind of justice Logan and Veronica understand, it's why they get eachother.
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From:holly96
Date:May 23rd, 2007 10:34 am (UTC)
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I know this was the end, but I'm not sure it's really hit me yet. Since last week I keep thinking it has, but I'm thinking...not so much.

Beating the shit out of Piz is something I'm sure he's wanted to do on principle for a long time, and now he has an excuse.
Hee. I myself have been wanting to beat up Piz on principle for some time, so I was happy to be able to live vicariously through Logan.

Anyway, thanks again for hosting, Sunil! It was fun! Hopefully we all find reasons to get together again sometime.

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From:coffeeandink
Date:May 23rd, 2007 11:04 am (UTC)
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And then...JAKE KANE! FOR SOME REASON! The whole "Jake Kane is King of The Castle" thing was kind of weird because, honestly, there is no reason that had to be Jake Kane. I'm not even sure it makes much sense for it to be Jake Kane, especially since he barely acted like Jake Kane at all, but we got Clarence Wiedman out of the deal, so we can't complain all that much. Plus, freakyass big portraits of Lilly and Duncan. Aw.

I was ready to be all, "But would Jake Kane go to Hearst? Wasn't he a Silicon Valley whiz kid nouveau riche type?" and then I remembered the show established there was also a Castle outpost at Stanford and that they did recruit/subvert the poor but promising. Though if Jake went to boarding school, he probably wasn't that poor.

He didn't kill Veronica, after all, so maybe it *was* Jake Kane and not a doppelganger. (You know Celeste would have voted for exterminate.)
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From:lodessa
Date:May 23rd, 2007 03:22 pm (UTC)
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Also Jake did go to Neptune High, so he's from the area. It still seems weird that he was in charge but I was willing to let that slide because I have been saying all season the VM just feels wrong without any Kanes at all. I was sort of disappointed though at their failure to make the connection count. I know the point was to show how utterly destroyed Jake was by the loss of his children (also presumably he and Celeste have split?) but it didn't quite hit right. I would have liked to have seen either a) anger at Veronica really being about her taking away his son even though it is somewhat irrational or b)mercy because of her connection to his lost kids. It wouldn't have to effect the outcome... just needed to be a little more resonant.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:May 23rd, 2007 03:20 pm (UTC)
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There was no Backup! He's been gone for weeeeeeeeeeks! Oh, doggie.
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From:bigboobedcanuck
Date:May 23rd, 2007 12:15 pm (UTC)
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I wish the series hadn't gone out on such a depressing note, but that's noir, baby. The good never prevail. I'm just glad the show went out strong.


I'm so happy it went out strong, but I do wish it wasn't so melancholy. I think if I were less invested in the characters, I'd love it unconditionally, but it's hard for me. I want Veronica to be happy, you know? I want my ship together.

I don't want this show to end.
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From:the_partyman
Date:May 23rd, 2007 12:22 pm (UTC)
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Definitely a fitting ending for the series, and true to the spirit of the show.

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you for being one of the people's who's love of the show inspired me to check it out midway through the first season. :)

*mandangoes*
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From:etherealclarity
Date:May 23rd, 2007 12:52 pm (UTC)
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Oh, I'm so glad you loved it. I've been reading too many reviews of people being pissed off, and when I was done watching it I was just in AWE of how amazing it was.

I feel like Keith being voted out of office was exactly the right ending. He compromised his morals because of his love for Veronica... and while that was exactly right, I think his reaction was partly him realizing that he's better off sticking to PI work. We know he could do a lot of good as Sheriff, but he realized he can't do it without bending the rules for Veronica, so I think Keith felt that being voted out was the right thing for him after all. And THAT'S why it's exactly right. It's like... his character is flawed, and it's nothing we haven't seen before, and we love him MORE because of it... especially because he accepts the consequences with such grace. Oh, it was so damn perfect.

Even the Piz stuff showed so much character growth on the part of Veronica. Wow, she's with a guy that she isn't cynical and suspicious about! Wow, instead of getting distant and backing off when Piz got pouty, she addressed the issue head on in exactly the way she needed to! And I feel like we've been getting that growth all season, only she really couldn't open up fully to Logan because as much as she cares about him, she really didn't (and for some legitimate reasons and some not, COULDN'T) trust him. But she trusts Piz. And I don't think it would last either, but it's real growth for her and I love that.

It made sense to me for it to be Jake Kane, for some reason. Right before the reveal, I thought it was going to be Dick's dad. And yeah, Jake has gone a little off in the deep end. Who wouldn't? He lost both his kids in one way or another.

And there's ANOTHER character growth point... Veronica GIVING THE HARD DRIVE BACK. We're so used to Veronica revealing all, uncovering all of the world's "secret wrongs" (as Joss put it). With this hard drive, she knew it was too much... and although maybe some of those people deserved it, she let it go. Just revealing the names was nothing compared to the stuff on that disk.

There was just so much to love about the way the series ended that I actually feel a sense of closure.
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From:kouredios
Date:May 23rd, 2007 01:16 pm (UTC)
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So sad it's done, but I loved these episodes too. I just wish they had made some kind of callback to the Tritons and/or Carmen's sex tape, because, while I loved last night's mysteries, we've definitely seen those before...
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From:afrocurl
Date:May 23rd, 2007 01:30 pm (UTC)
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Reading thoughts that liked the gray ending after waking up makes the show being over easier to take. I wasn't thinking of the noir last night as I watched, and now I am.

I'd come up with more if I had paid more attention while watching last night. I guess that's for later today.
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From:warden96
Date:May 23rd, 2007 01:36 pm (UTC)
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The series ends with Veronica voting for Keith and walking away in the dreary rain. Things have come full circle. The town of Neptune is going to vote Keith out of office again, with only Veronica sticking by him.

But it won't be just Veronica. Wallace will stick by him. So will Mac. Even Logan will. I'm willing to bet that everyone Veronica has ever helped in the last three years will stick by Keith. Mandy will be Keith's #1 fan. It's all about the journey, and the lives you've affected.


Do you think Dick will vote for him? How do you think Keith affected Dick's life? How do you think he touched Dick? (hee)

After the show was over, the fourteen of us stood around and talked about television, LiveJournal, grammar, and other sundry things for over an hour. It's all about the journey, and the lives you've affected. The show may be gone, but the friendships we formed because of it will remain.

Unless someone is the victim of a violent crime and they die?
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From:thecuckoo
Date:May 23rd, 2007 01:39 pm (UTC)

Since about "Hi, Infidelity," I had been yelling for...

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a plotline that involved Wallace's engineering major. Even undergrad engineering students get to do some wacky things. This wasn't quite what I was expecting, but since it involved V. smacking down a bunch of rich kids, I was quite pleased.

I was quite pleased with everything, in fact. That shot in the rain was wrenching, but exactly what this show is about. I think it ended in a perfectly awful and awfully perfect place.

(And while I'm sad to see it go, I am pleased that the show led to my inadvertent part in putting you and lspooreeyorick back in touch.)
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From:spectralbovine
Date:May 23rd, 2007 03:23 pm (UTC)

Re: Since about "Hi, Infidelity," I had been yelling for...

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Veronica Mars: reuniting old friends since 2004.
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From:kellbelles
Date:May 23rd, 2007 01:52 pm (UTC)
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I didn't cry until I read this. Thanks for that. ;)

I want to know what happens next, dammit.

ME TOO. It's not the way that the show ended (which was fitting and awesome), it's that it ended at all. Gone before it should've been. After a bumpy season, there's more story to tell. Those two episodes proved that, and that's just so bittersweet. But also fitting in this noir universe, I guess.

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