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January 23rd, 2007


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11:14 pm - Goodbye, Cruel Worldzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
It's Veronica! And Hearst! They're back!

So, look, I can't help loving this show. I guess I'm just not like other people. I can look past the fact that someone with as little value to humanity as Dick Casablancas continues to take up screentime as some sort of buddy comic relief character. I can look past the fact that Parker is the most well-adjusted rape victim ever and Chip doesn't seem to much care that he had an egg shoved up his ass. I can look past the fact that I am as tired of Logan and Veronica as I am of Lee and Kara. I can look past it at all and just see my show with these delightful characters in a rich, continually expanding fictional world with no shortage of mysteries to be solved by a girl for whom solving mysteries is more than a hobby, more than a job, it's a compulsion. She solves everything. She can't not.

(Raise your hand if you wanted Veronica to answer "What do you do for fun?" with an immediate "Nothing!" Oh, Zuko. You go and you juggle.)

It was a little weird to be dropped in six weeks later with everyone having ruled Dean O'Dell's murder a suicide, but of course, the audience has privileged information. There's also the fact that Mercer and Moe could be dead for all we know; I guess we're just supposed to imagine what Logan did to them and assume justice was served. While I dig the mini-arcs, I don't dig the strange feeling that we get a reset in the middle of the season, even though, sure, new viewers can jump in, except I'm not sure what a new viewer's reaction would be to "She's looking for a stolen MONKEY?"

It's sort of amusing that a couple days after I watch some PETA chick take off all her clothes to get me to stop eating meat (that link is not work-safe, by the way...strictly for home viewing, boys...and select girls), I get a VM storyline about PETA PHAT, who even make a naked joke. But I liked the idea of it because, as I have been saying over and over again, I think VM is doing an awesome job of utilizing the college environment. College is much more likely to have these activist types, and it rings truer than that fur girl back in S1. The cheesy themed dorm party? Also totally realistic. Plus, the RA is kinda hot. She can stay.

Is it bad that I didn't miss Wallace at all and didn't even realize he wasn't in the episode until someone pointed it out later? The girls were so great together that I completely forgot about him. And while Parker may have been the slightest bit irritating with her "You need a guy!" attitude, it was somehow endearing, since she had the best intentions. It all made for a pretty enjoyable episode overall, and Mac got some lovin'! Aww.

Now, as a scientist, I'm obviously on the side of science. Hell, there were posters all over our lab buildings that reminded us that animal research is necessary to study and cure diseases. Of course, I was never comfortable working with animals myself, as I didn't relish the idea of killing them. That being said, I still think Veronica's reaction was hopelessly naive: of course they're going to kill the monkey. And of course they'll just get a new monkey to kill. They're animal models. (Side note: even though Pauline had a point with her "curing cancer" argument, I thought she was being overly haughty given that their research was about lowering cholesterol.) I think the episode did a nice job of showing all the sides to people who didn't already know them for some reason, but the resolution to me seemed like it was saying, "Oh, poor animals killed in the name of science." I guess you can't go any other way when you've got a cute little monkey named Oscar. But this episode was political without being Sorkin, so that was nice.

Hey! It's very rare when television tackles a topic I can actually spout off about.

There was also great stuff on the Dean O'Dell mystery: that Scotch was a clue! And Veronica's "perfect crime" paper is being copied, just like everyone predicted it would be! MAYBE VERONICA KILLED DEAN O'DELL. IN A FUGUE STATE. And I loved the Keith/Landry showdown at the bar. Keith, you got pwned. I wonder whether his story was about Lianne, because...she really wasn't a looker. Or maybe he just made the whole story up. He's too obvious a suspect, but so is Tim Foyle, given the paper connection. And Mindy is hot, so she wouldn't kill anybody. That pretty much just leaves Ted Nugent Ed Argent. Come on, he even wore a sweatshirt with the word MURDER on it.

Logan, Logan, Logan. Getting blow jobs from random chicks on the beach? That's so not your style! Except it is, because self-destruction is your middle name.

Veronica, Veronica, Veronica. Have you never seen a romantic comedy in your entire life? Seriously? Piz wants you. And he won't be getting blow jobs from random chicks on the beach, mostly because he's not the son of a movie star, and he's also too spazzy to unzip his jeans. Just go out with him, okay? It will be something new. It will save us from all this Logan/Veronica on/off self-destruction/trust issues more-baggage-than-JFK-International shit.

Wait wait wait, I got it:

CERVANDO KILLED DEAN O'DELL.
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From:cerulgalactus
Date:January 24th, 2007 07:27 am (UTC)
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I haven't read any of this, I just wanted to say that I share your glee.
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From:alliterator
Date:January 24th, 2007 07:49 am (UTC)
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Dude, it was totally Cervando. Who's been dead for, like, two years.

I don't want Veronica and Piz to get together. I was cringing during that scene, not because it was bad, but because I just wanted them to stay friends (like Buffy and Xander!). So I liked how he was rejected again, even if Veronica totally didn't realize he was talking about her until the end.
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From:caitie
Date:January 24th, 2007 08:00 am (UTC)
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I browsed over from friendsfriends and felt compelled to use this icon.

Also, in the interest of this not being entirely superfluous, I thought it was a totally cute episode, and I'm hopeful that it managed to pick up a lot of the SOTU defectors.

It will save us from all this Logan/Veronica on/off self-destruction/trust issues more-baggage-than-JFK-International shit.

Hear, hear!
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From:spectralbovine
Date:January 24th, 2007 08:03 am (UTC)
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Hee! That Beaver. He really gets around.
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From:afrocurl
Date:January 24th, 2007 08:02 am (UTC)
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Interesting thoughts, P-C, especially about Cervando. I have to say that I liked the use of the activism story, and you're so right, it does work with the college setting.

That party--something I would have done when I was in school, and well, I think I did freshmen year.

Logan's middle name should be self-destruction, but I think that's been a long established fact.

Veronica clearly has spent too much time looking a philandering men to see "When Harry Met Sally" to understand unresolved sexual tension. Well, that or Keith and Logan have ruined any more that doesn't involve some sort of action sequence or random drug reference.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:January 24th, 2007 08:40 am (UTC)
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Interesting thoughts, P-C, especially about Cervando.
You're funny.
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From:snoopypez
Date:January 24th, 2007 08:38 am (UTC)
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I personally liked that the animal activists were portrayed as sane, rational people who just happened to believe that wearing fur is fucked up and testing on animals isn't all that great. They weren't violent or rabid or thieving.

That, honestly? Meant a lot to me. Even though I myself would probably.. be more rabid and thieving. Ahem. ;P
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From:briasoleil
Date:January 24th, 2007 12:58 pm (UTC)
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Agreed. To the nth degree, agreed.
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From:barilosopher
Date:January 24th, 2007 09:26 am (UTC)
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I didn't get the anti-animal-testing-judgment vibe like you did; I thought the show's apparent attitude was pretty ambivalent. I would like to see animals rights questions explored further in future episodes. Maybe I'm dreaming, but I felt like they were setting up a deeper treatment.

In other news,
Veronica and Piz: JUST SAY NO
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From:alliterator
Date:January 24th, 2007 09:31 am (UTC)
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BANANAGRABBER!
From:wee_warrior
Date:January 24th, 2007 12:36 pm (UTC)
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So, look, I can't help loving this show. I guess I'm just not like other people.

Awww. *hugs* If it helps you in any way, it makes me feel vaguely villainous that I no longer like the show (because of Beaver, Rob, not because of the feminists! Seriously!), it's like "I don't like VM, and also, I'm clubbing baby seals to death in my free time!" or something.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:January 24th, 2007 03:33 pm (UTC)
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Hee! You don't have to feel like that!
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From:thekateyouknow
Date:January 24th, 2007 01:04 pm (UTC)
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I feel sorry for the guy who plays Logan. I feel like he's been making the same exact woe!mopey face for the entire season. Must get boring. I've never been a big Logan fan, but he used to be more entertaining than this.

Piz is super cute.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:January 24th, 2007 03:34 pm (UTC)
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Heh, Jason describes himself as "mopery and dopery" this season.
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From:etherealclarity
Date:January 24th, 2007 01:07 pm (UTC)
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So, look, I can't help loving this show. I guess I'm just not like other people.

It's okay, Sunil. You're like me. :)

The political-ness of the storyline annoyed me slightly, but only slightly. I really don't have a problem with doing research on animals in the name of science, and while I definitely sympathize with the guy who named the monkey Oscar, I'm not so sure I liked Veronica's reaction at the end. But it was so subtle that I let it go.

Mac's new boy is so adorable. He better turn out to be awesome, because otherwise I'm going to throw a fit. She's due for some good stuff.

Logan getting a blow job made me sad. Logan and Veronica hooking up this episode made me happy and sad at the same time. Happy, mostly just because I predicted it, and because it was obvious that things weren't over between them. Sad because that conversation with Piz was so transparent. The look on Piz's face after he saw what happened made me sad again. Veronica is so clueless. It's hard for me to believe that she had no idea what Piz was talking about, but then... I'm friends with guys all the time, so I'm used to picking up on the signals. I'm actually interested to see wherever all of this will go. I don't think I'm a shipper anymore, but I do find all of it facinating to watch, regardless.

I'm going to say... not the best episode ever, but one that I definitely enjoyed.
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From:harper47
Date:January 24th, 2007 01:59 pm (UTC)
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Damn! How could I not have realized it was Cervando? Duh.

And hee!

Good post. But look at it this way. Logan sure didn't look like he was enjoying the blow job very much. I'm not a Piz fan but I guess he's the next "nice boy" up to bat in the good boy/bad boy game Veronica plays. Or that should be the good boy/epic love of her life Logan game. (hee - don't throw things, stop, ouch, now look tomato juice on my new sweater)

Whatever! Mac got some loving and good screen time, Parker was fun, Veronica was saving an animal again and hey - Marcel got a new gig. Ross would be happy especially since Logan is following in his footsteps and "was on a BREAK!"
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From:cindywrites
Date:January 24th, 2007 02:20 pm (UTC)
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(Side note: even though Pauline had a point with her "curing cancer" argument, I thought she was being overly haughty given that their research was about lowering cholesterol.)
Wait. Isn't heart disease the number 1 killer?

Also? Step off Dick Casablancas. He is rainbows, puppies, sunshine, and jelly beans, and a total joy.

I also still love the show (but I'm totally having a mad passionate fling with The Office -- my knees turn to water at the mere mention of its name).

I think this was a good episode if you've never seen the show, before. There were cute boys and girls. There was a monkey, and he wasn't in the Oval Office.

How do we know Logan and the beach girl had oral sex, rather than intercourse? I think I missed something.
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From:raelee
Date:January 24th, 2007 02:43 pm (UTC)
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How do we know Logan and the beach girl had oral sex, rather than intercourse? I think I missed something.

I got the same vibe as Sunil on this one... I guess because of the way the girl seemed to sit up and wipe her mouth in that scene. Plus the fact that they were both fully dressed (which, granted, doesn't mean they weren't both fully naked just moments earlier).
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From:raelee
Date:January 24th, 2007 02:36 pm (UTC)
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So, look, I can't help loving this show.

And I love you for that.

CERVANDO KILLED DEAN O'DELL.

I take it back. I love you for THIS. I can buy into this... look, I read Rob's interview at TWOP and even he admitted that no one is dead on this show until you see the body and I don't think we, the audience, have seen Cervando's body so who knows what kind of trouble he's stirring up running around with an assumed identity.

It was a little weird to be dropped in six weeks later...

You know, I don't mind this at all. For one, I much prefer for the show to be on the same timeline as us. For another, the show has always done this so I think it's normal for things to happen without us there to see them. I pretty much expected it to happen this way. And I think I'm alone in the not wanting to see the fallout of Logan in that jail cell. It is more effective for us to imagine what he did than to actually know for sure.

That being said, I still think Veronica's reaction was hopelessly naive: of course they're going to kill the monkey.

You know, the resolution didn't bother me because I felt like it was more a commentary on Veronica than the science and animal killing. I think Veronica was being hopelessly naive - something we rarely see with her. She honestly thought not revealing who had taken #25 would fix everything only to find out that she just postponed the inevitable. I thought it was a great noir and even "nicely" realistic resolution. I guess I didn't read anything political into it. Possibly because the people who seemed to be letting off the "poor animals" vibe were people who we had established felt that way. The scientists, even the guy who took Oscar, were accepting of what they do. I think there was an ok balance between the two.

I wonder how much of the real Kristen we were seeing in this storyline, given her stance on the subject.

Logan, Logan, Logan. Getting blow jobs from random chicks on the beach? That's so not your style!

Dude. He dated Caitlin, it's totally his style. He looked so miserable, though. Guess he wasn't able to imagine Veronica down there as easily as he was hoping, eh? I'm sick of mopey Logan, though. I can't believe I'm going to say this but Dick is right... Although, to be fair to Logan, I don't think the blowjob on the beach should be considered self-destructive (yet, anyway). No offense to Veronica but they had been broken up for six weeks.

As for Veronica, I can't believe how blind she was to what Piz really meant. I wonder if Parker's thinking that Piz might have a girlfriend at home was supposed to set Veronica up to not be as aware of Piz liking her as she has been in the past? I couldn't read Kristen's reaction in that earlier scene but it bugged me that she wasn't at all sensitive to what he really meant given that six weeks ago she seemed to understand that he had a crush on her? Oh well, I actually agree with you... just go out with the guy already. What's the worst that could come of it?
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From:cindywrites
Date:January 24th, 2007 02:40 pm (UTC)
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Oh, and it was totally Cervando, with a Spy Pen, in the secret quarters at Patricia Rose Hearst's house.
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From:eirefaerie
Date:January 24th, 2007 02:43 pm (UTC)
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eh, I was not impressed. It was weird - I enjoyed all the B-plots, but the monkey mystery was just . . . ugh, I felt it was so one-sided. Of course, this coming from a girl who worked at a foundation to dispute the lies PETA and ALF spread, but still. I've never known a scientist to be cavalier about their research subjects - unattached, maybe, but not cavalier, as RT seems to think they are. And I have little-to-no sympathy for Nervous Research Assistant, who destroys expensive and important work and steals a primate TO KEEP AS A PET. MONKEYS ARE NOT PETS, PEOPLE. I don't care how cute you think they are!

I don't know. Maybe the break was too long, or. . . I dunno. I thought they ended the last arc really well, and I was really looking forward to the show coming back, but I just can't see my way past the A-plot.
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From:cindywrites
Date:January 24th, 2007 05:06 pm (UTC)
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You're just in love with The Office and nothing else measures up. I know. < /projecting >
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From:amberlynne
Date:January 24th, 2007 02:57 pm (UTC)
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I think people are looking for things to bitch about because RT hurt their widdle delicate feelings by saying that they are in the minority of the people that watch the show. But that's just me.

It's still better then 90% of the crap that is on TV. It's okay to have high-standards for it but it's dumb to completely crucify it when it doesn't quite measure up. DO NOT GET ME STARTED! *ahem*

I loved last night. TEAM PIZ! I hope the V/L thing comes down to something other than "omgugoturdicksuckd!" as what tears them apart....again. Also? Mac needs her own show, she is so awesome. As for Parker, coming from the family she did, I would not be surprised at all if she's putting on a happy face because it's what she thinks she needs to do. And also a little taste of "Fake It Until You Make It" which is my life motto.

I thought they did a good job of showing that PHAT was not really focused on medical animal testing. All the stuff they talked about was cosmetic-related testing, hunting and being against fur. As is the theme this season, Veronica misjudged them. There is a difference between wanting Ted Nugent Ed Argent to shut up about hunting than trashing a lab and kidnapping monkeys. And, obviously, they kid wasn't cut out to be a scientist. So it's good that he found out now. Heh.
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From:cindywrites
Date:January 24th, 2007 05:11 pm (UTC)
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I think people are looking for things to bitch about because RT hurt their widdle delicate feelings by saying that they are in the minority of the people that watch the show. But that's just me.

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