October 4th, 2006
|12:53 am - It's a White Man's Sport!|
Michael made good on his promise. The Veronica Mars premiere party was at aiglet's house, and about half the party had gone to get food from a nearby taquería. We who remained somehow figured out how to order pizza.
It was during the first commercial break of Gilmore Girls that my phone rang. I saw that it was a Private Caller and turned down the volume.
"Hey, Michael," I said. I asked him how traffic was, and he said that I would probably be his last or second-to-last call because he was almost out of traffic. I told him we had just ordered pizza, and he told us to save him a piece. I said I'd put him on speakerphone so he could deliver his special message to everyone else.
Who is that? people wondered. Michael Muhney, people answered.
harriettheelf kind of freaked out. It was pretty amusing. "You are the person to hang out with," she said, "when it comes to Veronica Mars!"
Michael chatted with us a bit, asking what time it was. We said we were on his time, and we were watching Gilmore Girls. The show had actually come on by now, but I let it go because, really, would we miss anything important?
The news of Muhney on the Phone spread past the living room, and cadhla and Julie kind of hilariously made their way to the group gathered around my cell phone. I think I may have been the only person there who had met him, so the novelty value was very high!
I didn't really hear everything he said because I was too busy enjoying everyone else's reactions, but I'm sure he told us to enjoy the premiere and all that. As he hung up, he told me not to be a stranger and probably called me swarthy.
After I put the phone in my pocket, harriettheelf said, "That really happened."
Do you know what else really happened? THE VM SEASON THREE PREMIERE, BABY!
I liked it even more the second time around. The show is always more fun when you see it with a group of people who love it, who get into it, who will join you in collective laughter. But I couldn't attribute everything to the crowd.
For instance, I loved Piz this time around. Dude is hilarious! I just love how blasé casual he is. He really adds a new sort of personality to the show. I think the first time I saw the episode, I mistook his jokey racism as actual racism, which soured me on him a little. But once that record was set straight, I found him immensely entertaining. And I liked Parker a lot more, too! She's just so genuinely nice in a sweetly oblivious way.
I thought the teaser was a good introduction to Veronica. While it would have been nice to see her actually solving the case with the real clues, I liked that she thought out of the box, which is a hallmark of a good detective. If you stick to the tried-and-true methods, you're not going to find anything anyone else couldn't find themselves. This is what Veronica brings to the table. That, and a perceptive grasp of possessive pronouns. "What did you do for the extra ten minutes?" cracked my shit up. Some people thought she was being a little mean and spiteful there, but Tim brought it on himself with the crack about elementary education. Tim, whom I recognized as James Jordan immediately because he was so obviously covered in hair. I applaud the actor, however, whose performance was completely unlike his as Lucky.
For most of the people at the party, it seemed that the new credits were a complete surprise, so they were met with lots of boos. But, really, they grow on you. I think they're very cool, although I do miss the fun of the old sequence. This one has its own fun, however.
The MOTW was pretty simple and straightforward, but it was a nice way to integrate Piz into the group. And there is, of course, much amusement to be had with the discovery that the head of the ring of thieves is named Fagan, a name that sounded familiar for some reason because, of course, Oliver Twist.
Let's do some character stuff now.
Wallace! I missed Wallace. The old Wallace, who wasn't burdened with ill-advised girlfriends and contract-fulfilling trips to Chicago. The straightfaced way he responds to Piz's assertion that he doesn't wear clothes indoors: "No, that's really not okay." The unironic way he declares that the beer and posters are behind the porn. His eye-rolling at the Unwashed. The hackysack scene in its entirety.
MAC. Tina Majorino is certainly earning her paycheck. Over the summer, Mac became both more adorable and a hell of a lot snarkier. That's what trauma will do to you, huh? Now she's nicknaming like crazy, from "Frozen Below the Waist" to "Needs Hosing Down." And her delivery of "More than anything in the world" is just priceless. And the little fake smile after "Under our suggestion box, and tip jar!" Mac is very bitter now, huh? She's got a lot more bite. But still: adorable! Like the smile she gives to Veronica after lying to Tim about the professor needing him, which I didn't catch the first time around.
Dick sure got messed up, huh? He's become incredibly self-destructive, and Ryan Hansen really surprised me with his last scene. He's always been good comic relief, but he pulled off the drama as well.
Logan was basically reduced to Veronica's Boyfriend, which bugged me. Very little of his edge. Hope he regains it, as schmoopy Logan is not very fun to watch.
Veronica. Oh, Veronica. I've heard complaints that she's become bitchy and overly quippy, and I did become aware that she sure does have a lot of quips up her sleeve, even when they're unwarranted. There's no need to kick Piz when he's down by berating him for not locking his car, although "Where they don't have rhetorical questions?" was delivered with enough of a smile. And was really funny, which lets me look past most things, as I like to be entertained by my television. I think Veronica could stand to have some more scenes like her scene with Piz where they discuss why she does what she does, a scene I really liked because, hey, did you hear that I like identity issues? Why does she do it? It's because it's who she is, that's why. Still, the writers know Kristen Bell can deliver lines like nobody's business, so we're treated to hilarities like "Are you ready to rock?/That's the spirit!!"
So, a couple complaints, then. On the second viewing, the rally scene stood out to me as really bad. It just seemed so horribly staged for the benefit of setting up the mystery. And, as
gymble harriettheelf pointed out, Take Back the Night rallies generally take place at...night.
And then, of course, the most common complaint: when even hardcore fans find Keith's storyline confusing, we've got a problem. Personally, I am a fan of the Fitzpatricks and do not mind the continuation of their storyline and presence in Neptune, and we do have to resolve the whole thing with Kendall's briefcase, but Cormac Fitzpatrick kind of comes out of nowhere, and with the awkward exposition they throw in to explain to new viewers that Beaver killed himself, you'd think they could have tossed in a couple lines reminding us who the hell he is and what his relationship to Kendall is. All that is clear is that the briefcase was full of money (which, lame!), and I don't even remember where all this money could have come from, but both Cormac and Liam want it, so Cormac is running off with Kendall. And Vinnie bugged Keith's briefcase for some reason. And Cormac for some reason DOESN'T EVEN WAIT FOR KEITH TO LEAVE before killing Kendall. Or pretending to kill Kendall. Or whatever is going on there. It's good for counterbalancing the light mood of the MOTW, but it doesn't seem to fit in the episode, and it's hard to follow, to boot. I think the problem is that we're missing the second half of the storyline, which will come next week.
Unrelated complaint: WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK IS WITH THE FUCKING AERIE GIRLS? I actually tried to listen to what they were saying in an attempt to discern why we were being subjected to them. And as it turned out, they had nothing interesting to say. They weren't even TALKING ABOUT THE GODDAMN SHOW. "Oh, you change so much when you go to college! OMG! Long-distance relationships are hard!" Are they trying to drive away viewers? I thought they cared about the 18-34 demographic, for God's sake!
Unrelated squee: OMG I SAW SHELLY POMROY TWICE. She's definitely at the rally wearing her now-trademark shades, and I'm pretty sure she walks down the hall on the right side of the screen when Veronica goes to take a picture of the Red Herring junior who had her stuff stolen. She also could be walking right past Veronica in the opening scene of the teaser. Shelly's at Hearst! Awesome!
Unrelated hilarity: remember this?
STEVEN: Look, those Kappa Episilon Epsilon guys. I don't know how they found out, but...I was just testing out my new digital camera, see. This one, actually. And, and...I think I saw something I shouldn't have. I saw that one guy, the big one that punched Dick Casablancas in the face at lunch on Wednesday
I CAN PREDICT THE FUTURE. Deedee's boyfriend is the rapist!
And speaking of rape: Julie Gonzalo nailed that final scene.
All in all, it was a very entertaining episode, which I hope entertains new viewers enough to stick around. I don't even know what to expect from the ratings. I'm afraid. But...there's not much I can do about it now.
My show is back.
Current Mood: rejuvenated
Current Music: Katie Soper - Cynical
|Date:||October 4th, 2006 07:59 am (UTC)|| |
My show is back.
That's what I said as soon as it ended. I was v. happy.
Still am. I am so looking forward to this season.
I looove that hackeysack scene like, more than I love many things. (Wow, what a lame sentence.)
Like the smile she gives to Veronica after lying to Tim about the professor needing him, which I didn't catch the first time around.
Ha ha! FINALLY I noticed something you did not! ;D I may be a little too proud of that, no?
Bleh, the Aerie thing. I just LOVED that they were all "OMG I'm so just interested in the romance!" Yeah, thanks for that, chicks. Let's not discuss the damn mysteries or anything interesting. Sheesh.
I CAN PREDICT THE FUTURE. Deedee's boyfriend is the rapist!
..I think I missed your episode posts most of all. :D
The television hasn't truly started until we get Sunil's reviews.
Still, the writers know Kristen Bell can deliver lines like nobody's business, so we're treated to hilarities like "Are you ready to rock?/That's the spirit!!" And lets not forget the pause after "Piz" inquired about Logan...just why did he ask anyway,foreshadowing for what might happen
Far as the "aerie girls" go...kinda wondering what purpose they do serve
And lets not forget the pause after "Piz" inquired about Logan...just why did he ask anyway,foreshadowing for what might happen
I think it was definitely an "Oh, shit, this kid totally has a crush on me, ooooops" moment.
and I don't even remember where all this money could have come from, but both Cormac and Liam want it
Phoenix Land Trust.
That's what I thought maybe at first, but I don't understand why Liam would think he had any claim to it.
In a feat of near unprecendented self-discipline, I managed to let a copy of the sneak-peek-premiere sit unwatched on my harddrive for a week, so I could enjoy it in it's full widescreen glory! Yay me!
I agreee that the Keith stuff would be utterly confusing to new viewers, though maybe having a bunch of exposition or a "previously on" might have been worse. I am undecided on that.
Not sure I like that Piz dude. I had the same problem as you I think with his jokey racism - it didn't seem funny - and I hope that fits better for me when I rewatch. Hate the guy's hair. Though the Piz/Wallace birdwatching scene was neat, and their roomateness does have potential. We shall see.
Overall though, really enjoyed it, and fucking hell, awesome final scene!!!
Oh those credits? Didn't like. :( While the visuals in themselves were good, and maybe feel a little more "adult", the song feels to have had all the fun remixed out of it. Maybe it will grow on me. :/
Have to run to work now so I can't read yet, but eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! it was awesome.
Oh, man, what is wrong with Hearst? You call that a TBTN rally? There are like twelve women there! I mean, I get that extras in large quantity can be prohibitive but - Ridiculous.
Also, the "aerie girls" win the award for the fastest I have ever hit 'mute' on my remote. Shut up, stupid fake slumber party. Please go die a quiet, tidy, relatively painless death in the corner, before I am forced to kill you loudly and messily.
Basically I second everything you've said... Um, I quite like the new credits - much moodier and they seem to fit the atmosphere of the show better. And re the Cormac/Kendall murder spree - that was weird, yeah; although then I thought, Maybe Cormac is actually working for Liam. You know? A long(ish) con to get both Kendall and Keith. I don't know.
Um... oh! I love the characterization of both Mac and Dick, and their respective ways of coping with Cassidy's suicide. So much love.
BUT WHERE WAS WEEVIL?
|Date:||October 4th, 2006 12:26 pm (UTC)|| |
And Cormac for some reason DOESN'T EVEN WAIT FOR KEITH TO LEAVE before killing Kendall.
THANK YOU!!!! I was thinking about this yesterday and it bugged me again when I rewatched the show. Why the heck would he kill Kendall while Keith was there? He knows that Keith doesn't want to know where they are going, etc., it makes no sense to have to cover up Keith's death as well as Kendall's. All I can think is that he may have thought he couldn't return to Neptune if Keith was alive? That's pretty flimsy though because there are ways he could spin it to Keith later that would be easier than having to cover up Keith's death.
The aerie girls are just bad... they might have been easier to stand had they gotten true fans for it. If you aren't going to do that, you might as well hire some actresses who would be funny and entertaining.
Michael called my little party! There ended up only being four of us (at least three people cancelled at the last minute b/c of too much homework), but we all gathered around the speakerphone. He was so very cool... and he told us that we were the first number on a list of 30, which... wow! And I kinda got a little obsessive-fanish and recorded the conversation. Doh!
Weirdly, I mostly understood the Fitzpatrick/Kendall storyline. I didn't find it confusing at all. I mean, they left out a lot of details, but I understood it enough to follow what they were trying to show right now.
The credits are starting to grow on me... slowly. They lack energy but... they're so much DARKER, which is cool. More noir, I suppose.
And... I loved Piz. The fake racism threw all my friends, and when he corrected himself we all laughed... partly out of relief, which was probably the point. Jessica said "We were supposed to think what I was thinking... right? I'm not just racist in my head, right?" Haha.
Loved Mac. Loved Dick. There were many things to love about this episode. I agree that Logan wasn't one of them, sadly. I'm liking him more as a person now and less as a character, ironically. Hopefully that'll change.
|Date:||October 4th, 2006 01:14 pm (UTC)|| |
I am sad I didn't have a premiere party to go to. Hopefully next year though. =D
Yeah, I liked the episode enough. The first time around I was really bored, but mostly because they show just doesn't feel the same to me without the flashbacks and the bitter jaded voiceovers and the dark noir elements that I have a feeling the show is getting rid of to lighten the show up for new viewers. And while I understand that the show needs to be dumbed down to attract new viewers, I am like a four year old stamping my feet and crying, "what about me?" It was quippy enough so hopefully it attracts GG viewers, and if it does I'll get over it because I am glad that the show is back. Logan actually made me feel nothing for once, he was really dulled down and as I said before I am glad everyone else was as confused as I was about the keith storyline. I am sure we will find out soon what went down there.
I have a feeling the show is getting rid of to lighten the show up for new viewers.
Note: not the show, just this episode. Except for the flashbacks, which I hear they're not doing as much, which boooo. But next week is a return to form, from what I hear.
And there is, of course, much amusement to be had with the discovery that the head of the ring of thieves is named Fagan, a name that sounded familiar for some reason because, of course, Oliver Twist.
My mind went right past this because they went and named him DONALD Fagin, which, as we all know is one of the guys in the band Steely Dan.
Me too. The Donald Fagen thing seemed like a very obvious Steely Dan shoutout what with the guy being a GUITAR PLAYER and everything.
But that seems to have been overlooked by most VM fans in favor of the Oliver Twist connection. I thought the reference was probably to both, but it can't be a coincidence that the name was DONALD Fagen (or Fagan, I didn't see it spelled).
At first, I didn't see the necessity in harming in Keith after killing Kendall. Unless it was intended to make him immobile and pin the murder on Keith. Cormac really had the worst bunch of lines though. Enough already with the woman I love crap. We know from the moment you dropped that line that it was all BS. Cormac's the worst Fitzpatrick ever. Bring on Liam and Danny Boyd NOW. Because I love them so much.
Wait, so the contents of the briefcase is really just a bunch of moolah? I'm quite confused. This storyline doesn't make much sense and it's gone flat.
I didn't find the Keith thing all that confusing, but maybe that's because I was anticipating ahead for pretty much all of it, trying to figure out where they were going rather than paying attention to what I was being shown as mattering in the moment. I'm all in the "it's going to make sense later anyway, usually does, might as well leave it" camp.
Also, I like Veronica prickly. I do not understand the "bitchy" thing. She spends all her time detectiving, a lot of the time solving mini-mysteries for students who have varying degrees of bad things happen to them, often based on doing something careless. Now, not everyone should be paranoid or always ready with a taser and/or bug, but for Veronica, who goes through the motions of figuring out wrongdoings all the effing time, it makes sense that she'd be frustrated with someone who got robbed because he didn't lock the doors. It's not because she's mean or kicking him when he's down; it's because she's too used to doing what she does. Easy to be quippy then.
|Date:||October 4th, 2006 02:47 pm (UTC)|| |
In from friendsfriends.
Mainly because this strikes me as the best place to make this observation:
"I'm going to spoon your brains out."
Clearly, Veronica is Sylar.
And yes, my Wallace love continues unabated.
Re: In from friendsfriends.
"I'm going to spoon your brains out."
Clearly, Veronica is Sylar.
HA HA HA HA HA HA.
Hey! I said that about the TBTN rallies taking place at night usually! Give a women's college alumna a little credit why don't you?
:) Oh, I totally missed that the guy playing Obnoxious TA Tim was the same guy who played Lucky - hmmmmmmm.
I said that about the TBTN rallies taking place at night usually! Give a women's college alumna a little credit why don't you?
I thought that might have been the case! I'll fix it.
Oh, I totally missed that the guy playing Obnoxious TA Tim was the same guy who played Lucky - hmmmmmmm.
Heh, I was going to point it out, but I figured everyone knew. But, I mean, you didn't even know there were two new folks in the credits! Oh, people who stay away from the Internet. How different you are.
I am so frigging relieved. Cause if the Almighty Polter-Cow doesn't know what the hell is happening with Keith, then I don't have to feel quite so dumb. I withheld the last three disks of Season 2 from my parents while they watched the others in hopes of making sense of it, but obviously I should just wait til next week.