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March 29th, 2005


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11:24 pm - A Day in the Life of the TWoP Forums Being Down
The TWoP forums are still down, and I cannot contain my love for this episode, so:

OH MY FUCKING GOD I LOVE THIS SHOW.

First, absolutely killer opening scene. Loved all the swaying camera work as Veronica tears up her room and discovers the bug. And of course she doesn't destroy it. She's seen movies before; she knows what to do.

Great use of flashbacks so that they could still have the MOTW while telling us what went down when Veronica met Lianne. And damn. Dude. They went and confirmed a lot, didn't they? I'm trying to put everything together now. I mean, this supposedly absolves Jake of the murder, but all these alibis are still for Lilly's supposed time of death! So in fact all suspicions are still viable! Could Celeste have left the hotel angry and gone after Veronica in a jealous rage, assuming the mistaken identity theory?

And Veronica used up all her savings to treat her mom's alcoholism. Damn. It's a twelve-week program, though, so I guess that means we won't see her again this season? Also, this kind of destroys my pet theory about Lianne being the murderer. She's not as whack as I first thought.

So, the MOTW. I think Entertainment Weekly made the amusing connection between Veronica's going from finding her mother to finding a parrot. Loved the "day in the life of the human Google" line.

You know what? It didn't even hit me until a few hours before the episode that "Betty and Veronica" isn't just an empty Archie reference, since Veronica's name is...Veronica. I'm a moron. As is Richie, for not getting the Riverdale reference. Hee hee. And it's great that they never explained the Pan reference. The mascot was a goat. Hee hee. Go mythology go!

Loved the twists and turns, which, again, were natural. And how great is it that Weevil turned out to be the bookie? Glad they're not softening him up too much. Except he may be in a wee bit of trouble if everyone really did bet on Neptune.

Wallace has really come into his own as a character. I was a little concerned about the subtle friction between Veronica and him (he's found a new group of jocks to hang out with, etc.), but then we discovered Veronica was making the Snickerdoodles, and my heart did a little dance. I wanted to give her a hug. So sweet. I was so happy to see her do something truly nice and selfless for him.

And Veronica doesn't seem as okay with Meg/Duncan as she did last time, huh? I hope she doesn't totally cut Meg off, because, well, Meg's pretty, but she's also nice, and she truly does want to be Veronica's friend. Loved the awkwardness of the gelato place, not only because of Meg and Duncan, but also because Jake and Celeste were there.

Oh, I forgot to mention a line Kristen Bell rocked the fucking house on. When Lianne said she knew Jake didn't do it: "In your heart? Because you love him?" It was the perfect mix of biting sarcasm, disbelief, grief, and about fifty other emotions. She managed to find the right balance between trying to hurt her mother with those words and crying about the things her mom has been hiding from her.

And finally, the ending. I clapped my hands at the incredibly slick execution of Veronica's plan. You are so fucked, Clarence Wiedman. Veronica has your number.

Abel Koontz has a daughter, and somehow Keith never figured this out. She must be pretty well hidden.

This episode was solid beyond all solidness. Man.
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From:tiggz
Date:March 30th, 2005 12:30 am (UTC)
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'scuse me while i run through your journal squeeing....

*squeeeeeeeeeeee*

i loved this episode so much. only 6 left!!! what are we gonna do?!
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From:spectralbovine
Date:March 30th, 2005 01:08 am (UTC)
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I don't know! If they're all this good, I don't know that my heart can take it. It will simply explode.

(Love your icon. Hee hee.)
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From:calendae
Date:March 30th, 2005 01:03 am (UTC)
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*runs in because of VMars mention*

I love this show so much. I got to see this episode at the Paley Festival and I've been sitting on my hands to stop myself from posting because it was so awesome. Just the perfect juxtaposition of the comedy and drama and omg how much do I love Wallace? I love that he's becoming part of the "in" crowd but doesn't want to leave Veronica behind. Snickerdoodles! Cutest thing ever.

*friends you because I don't have enough VM people on my flist*
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From:spectralbovine
Date:March 30th, 2005 01:10 am (UTC)
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Hey! I know you're a TWoPer, so it's not surprising that you found me, but I'm wondering what VMars mention you're referring to, since you're not a member of the community. Unless you just check it casually.

And yeah, Wallace! So great.
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From:par_avion
Date:March 30th, 2005 01:03 am (UTC)
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You are so cute with your VM love!

I was just glad the show was back! That was a long hiatus. Solid ep, and looking forward to next week. And glad to know that I still love the show (I was starting to wonder).
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From:spectralbovine
Date:March 30th, 2005 01:11 am (UTC)
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Never doubt your love of VM! Absence makes the heart grow fonder.

Although I do kind of know what you mean, in that I didn't think "Ruskie Business" was as superfantastic as most everyone else did, so it was good to have this sort of reaction to an episode again.
From:milferd
Date:March 30th, 2005 01:12 am (UTC)
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Fantastic comments.

Veronica really got some gut punches.

We the audience did too with her mother saying she was in a hotel room so Veronica and us had to assume sex but this was later clarified but for us in the audience they made us wait awhile for that clarifying fact. But just when we think we are relived we drop again when Veronica’s paternity comes back into question.

It’s a ROLLERCOSTER and I love it.
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From:ohimesamamama
Date:March 30th, 2005 01:13 am (UTC)
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I laughed so hard my inlaws came in the room to look at me funny at this episode. This was definitely one of the funnier VM episodes overall.

And how cute was Wallace? And how sweet was Veronica's support for him? It's so nice to see that even though there's prickliness about the popular people (awww, poor Meg, kindasorta, and her hope they could find some middle ground), that Veronica braves them for a real friend.

I am a total sap for this show, and am Rob's bitch. The next six episodes are going to be just as amazing, I just know it, and it will kill me.
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From:pixelarious
Date:March 30th, 2005 01:26 am (UTC)
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Ha, I like that while I got some of the references, there are always more that I missed. Pan? Doy, shoulda guessed. Oh Rob, you're awesome.
I dug the snickerdoodles too (so cute), but it seemed like she was making them like meatballs. That's what we thought as we watched. Usually the balls're smaller. But hey, that's cool. And it was good for Wallace to know that Veronica will always be there for him, just because. My dad (not a regular watcher, which can get annoying when you're trying to pay attention and he's asking dumb questions) wondered if Wallace and Veronica would ever go out, and I don't think they will, bc they need each other as friends too much. And my favorite line? Wallace saying their friendship was based on favors she needs him to not ask questions about. Smart tv is the best thing ever.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:March 30th, 2005 01:34 am (UTC)
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That was a great line because it was so true. And no, Wallace and Veronica are too good as friends to date. They haven't been playing up any sort of weird attraction/jealousy-type things, so I don't think they have plans to stick them together, at least not right now.
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From:neutrals
Date:March 30th, 2005 01:45 am (UTC)
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this episode was so good. i was unable to think of good stuff to say. sad, huh?
From:fishinginthemud
Date:March 30th, 2005 01:52 am (UTC)
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Man, I love that we finally got to see what Wallace means to Veronica. It's so rare and sweet. And I need my TWoP back, like now.
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From:idreamofpeace
Date:March 30th, 2005 02:20 am (UTC)
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Ooh, I just wrote about this down below. Yeah, lack of TWoP is making me pull my hair out. Eeevil. At least Rob's site is up. The pictures are adorable. I love the one with Kristen and Backup 1.0.

Ok, now I can't wait until next week.
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From:vonniek
Date:March 30th, 2005 02:07 am (UTC)
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Heh. I edited my own post (while you were commenting) to add my own suspicion--well, not suspicion, but sort of hope because my! the angst!--that Lianne would be the murderer. Great minds, etc. But yeah, if Lianne was lying through her teeth to Veronica despite being Lilly's killer (which I was hoping would be accidental), then she'd be a total evil bitch, and I don't think the writers would go there.
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From:idreamofpeace
Date:March 30th, 2005 02:18 am (UTC)
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I completely agree. I'm really glad that I got to watch it a second time around because I got a lot more things. The beginning was brilliant. What I want to see a little more of is having someone else comfort Veronica. Veronica had to comfort her MOM of all people. I want someone to be there for Veronica since she still is just 17. I know Keith is there for her, but I want to see some hugging where she's the one being comforted. Blah, that was all confusing. And how insane am I going without the TWoP forums?

I love the friendship that is growing more real between Veronica and Wallace. I'm glad we're seeing that she gives in the relationship as much as he does. I love that she did the spirit box because, while she is totally not into school spirit, it DOES matter to Wallace and she likes seeing him happy. "The girl can bake."

I was also thinking "Aha, Jake is absolved now" but then I remembered that that was for the SUPPOSED time of death. Could this get any more exciting?

"They like you, they really like you!" This is how I feel on the forums:) Ok, now I can't wait until next week.

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From:spectralbovine
Date:March 30th, 2005 02:21 am (UTC)
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Could this get any more exciting?

I would say no but I would be wrong.

Hee. fishinginthemud and I were just talking about you when you left your comment.

Also, I will hug Veronica.
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From:shpyum
Date:March 30th, 2005 02:39 am (UTC)
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I want my TWOP back! I think Keith might have known about Koontz's daughter. I think he's keeping a *lot* under his sleeve.

There was so much else I wanted to say, but I don't remember what any of it was. Except maybe that I love Weevil and Wallace. The only thing that would have made this episode better? Lilly Kane, of course.
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From:snoopypez
Date:March 30th, 2005 02:44 am (UTC)
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Wallace SO called it in the pilot. Veronica really WAS dying to bake him something. ;)

You know, I mostly lurk at TWoP, but damn, I miss the forums. I want to read other people's thoughts! Lurking is fun!
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From:spectralbovine
Date:March 30th, 2005 02:47 am (UTC)
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Wallace SO called it in the pilot. Veronica really WAS dying to bake him something. ;)

Yeah, someone else pointed that out. So funny! So awesome! So continuity-rrific!
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From:alliterator
Date:March 30th, 2005 02:48 am (UTC)
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Yay! Livejournal and the MI.net forums have replaced TWoP temporarily. But I'm still waiting beside the "refresh" button, so I can get back on TWoP.

As for this episode: Damn. I repeat: Damn. Could they pack more into it? I am constantly amazed by the amount of information they can pack into episodes - considering they actually use the VMVOs as exposition tools, instead of pointless commentary (although VMVO does comment on things as well) and we were able to jump right into the first scene without any large infodumps. And flashbacks! The use of flashbacks on this show is just excellent. The episode alternating between the present and Veronica's search for Polly to the past and Veronica's search for the truth from her mother, who is so out of it that she has to beg to get a beer (that scene was actually the most painful for me) and Veronica has to use her last cent to put her mom in rehab.

I'm... I'm just dead. Resurrect me for the next episode.
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From:alliterator
Date:March 30th, 2005 02:48 am (UTC)
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Oops. Forgot to use this icon. I'll go back to being dead now.
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From:dgriswold
Date:March 30th, 2005 03:56 am (UTC)
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I need to watch it again. But I sure enjoyed it at the Paley thingy. Though I did feel just the tiniest bit unfulfilled with her mother's story, especially since it seems pretty completed.
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From:kyteaura
Date:March 30th, 2005 10:35 am (UTC)
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You know what? It didn't even hit me until a few hours before the episode that "Betty and Veronica"

You would think after buying all those Betty and Veronica Double Diguest books it would have made me understood it faster -.-; I only just got it.

I totally agree with you on the Wallace thing and the snicker doodles ^-^ I don't get how any one, but Veronica would know his locker combination. It's not some thin paper letter you can just toss in with ease.

I can't wait to watch next week's episode!!! So far I've only ever missed one episode and it totally threw me off course @_@ So I'm hoping I get to see it before the end...

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