July 23rd, 2005
|12:41 am - Kristen Bell Is Not the Bitch Who Took My Ride|
My primary fandom, the one for which most of you have me friended, is Veronica Mars. And I feel I have been lax in my VM-related posting of late, not having responded to the new cast members or the CBS reruns or any of the other itty bitty things you've seen dozens of posts about on your flists. But it's the summer, and I'm not a compulsive poster, so that is the way of things. Since I'm already using up a post on the latest Battlestar Galactica, though, I figure I might as well respond to the Wank of the Moment, which deals with the fact that Kristen Bell
eats puppies wants Duncan to be at the door, and thus she is a bitch. The actual arguments may be a little more nuanced than that, but honestly, cadhla debunks them verily. hobviously also has her say.
But seriously, you guys. The girl rescues puppies. She even did a bloody PSA to urge people to adopt their pets from shelters. Which gives me an excuse to pimp the charity project.
When she received what Seanan has dubbed the fan conspiracy pillow, she hugged wonderwilma and thanked her profusely. There were no cameras around, no press. This was just sincere gratitude.
A friend of persnicketiervm's told Kristen persnick's birthday was coming up soon. Kristen mailed persnick a signed photo as a birthday present.
I could go on and on, but the point is: our girl? Not a bitch.
But speaking of non sequiturs, I watched my very first episode of BSG on a Friday night!
And damn. The Centurions were fucking scary motherfuckers. They moved fast. They had claws. They had lots of firepower. They were practically invulnerable to bullets. And they could leap like whoa. We didn't even get to see a lot of them, but the special effects on this show kick ass.
Apparently they adjusted the population count in the credits, and shit, it's going way down next week. There were dead bodies everywhere. Christ. I mean, people die on shows all the time, and there's all this meaningless slaughter, and yeah. But every death on this show seems so much stronger and more of a loss considering how small the human population is. Both our heroes and the killer robots were blood-spattered. All the running down spaceship hallways gave the episode a very Alien feel.
The fact that Tigh had seen this plan of attack before was nifty.
Dualla's conditioned response to her rank was cool. And creepy.
I loved the "roll a hard six" callback and the fact that Apollo didn't know what it actually meant.
The shot with that final leaping Cylon and Apollo lunging out to blow its head off? Awesome. Unrelatedly, is it just me, or does Kat the nugget look like Maeby?
Apollo's gotten a lot more interesting now that he's mutinied and shit. I always liked his being torn between the President and his father, and it's kind of cool that he's kind of...lost at the moment. He doesn't really have an allegiance to anyone but himself. Yet, he still respects his father and his command. And wants Tigh to suck it. Hee.
Meanwhile, back at
the ranch Caprica, Starbuck's chillin' at her old apartment and wondering what she has to fight for, to live for. Nice little scene. Anyone recognize the music? Is it some classical piano tune? I liked it. Also, the girl's an artist? Didn't see that coming. Kind of sad that she didn't seem to care about her paintings at all.
I was a little surprised to discover that in the future, they still drive ratty old four-wheeled vehicles. I wonder what Starbuck's original purpose in going back to her apartment was. She was looking for something. Was it just the cigars? I mean, I wouldn't put it past her, but I was just curious.
And finally, on Kobol, Adama's drowning babies that don't exist. And there are human skulls everywhere. Unless they're not actually there. Baltar's crazy and all. Not a lot of Baltar/Six action in this episode, unfortunately. But there was lots of killin' to make up for it.
Cally said "motherfracker"! Heee. I don't know why she's so adorable. She just is. But not walk-all-over-me adorable. And Tarn died for nothing, and Tyrol morphined his buddy into oblivion, and it's all very sad.
Last season, the Caprica storyline bugged me, and this season, the storylines are fractured into three. And sometimes, it's like, "Ah, some relief." And other times, it's like, "PEOPLE ARE DYING GET ME BACK TO GALACTICA GODDAMMIT." But at least I like at least one of the characters involved in the terran narratives. Terranatives! Okay no.
In conclusion, the killer robots would be cooler if they were killer ninja robots.
Current Mood: scared
Current Music: Eisley - Telescope Eyes
I don't even understand why she needs any long defenses. Can't the woman express her own thoughts about whatever she feels like for god's sake? God. I can't even believe people would call her a bitch. It's not even season 2 yet. It's far too early for that.
Never forget, Kate. We inherited the Buffy fandom. We're wanking at an accelerated pace.
Ah. So that's why SMG, who I happen to have always liked, is always being dragged into things. I never understood why she couldn't say whatever she felt like saying either. Actors are windbags, man. I'm surprised there's not more of this type of stuff coming out of their mouths.
What bugs me is the disrespect people have for actors. Like, just because they're actors, they're complete morons who know absolutely nothing beyond their own character (if they even know a thing about their character, which they probably don't cause they're so stupid), and they don't have a clear picture of what the show is or what should happen, and it always turns into the simple idea that fans are superior to everyone actually involved with the show. And that attitude really, really bugs me.
Well, of course. You can always see pretty similar strains of weirdness running through any wank. Why do you think people are currently making plans to write their own, "correct" version of Half Blood Prince. Because THEY, not the author, know the RIGHT way it should end. Just ask the characters! They'd tell you! If they could, you know, talk.
|Date:||July 28th, 2005 01:10 pm (UTC)|| |
I think that actors, especially good actors, do have a very skewed vision of their own shows. And it's with good reason - they have to see things from their own character's viewpoint and if they start branching out and view the show as a whole you can usually tell by a decline, or maybe I should say lack of focus, in their acting.
And I do think that fans have a better idea than actors of what goes on, but that doesn't mean I want fans to decide what happens on a show. Heaven forbid! Giving the fans what they want is the worst mistake a writer can make. Fans can inform writers that their intended story is not working, but they should never be allowed to dictate events.
It seems like what you inherited was a certain segment of the Buffy fandom 'shippers, and that they may be serial 'shippers. Shipping, for the record, is bad. In fact, as soon as I saw one particular name in one of the entries to which you linked, it all made sense.
Poor SMG, she hasn't been on a show in a couple of years, and she's still getting crap, because the writers didn't end the show with Buffy and Spike and a picket fence. Apparently, she was supposed to threaten to stake herself, to get it to happen.
What cracked me up was that the Potter fen wank spilled over into it, too. There was like something for everyone in those.
You realize both SMG and KB are completely guilty; they're guilty of being pretty, blond (sometimes, at least) successful, and talented enough to make people care about their characters. What a couple of bitcas.
I actually watched BSG tonight, but didn't pick much up for...reasons.
All I can say is a huge "whatever." Cause, seriously, whatever. This is why I wasn't that keen on partaking in the VM fandom, beyond my circle of friends on lj. And fanfic. And the music pages at twop. Where I haven't been in weeks.
Also, I'm not sure I get it. I mean, I get it. I'm just not sure where all the angst and hatred and hairpulling are coming from.
..How did I miss this wank?
Bah. I'm still hoping that Rob Thomas was LYING to us all, and it will really be Wallace at the door. ;P
You know, I am only learning of the kerfuffle from people talking about how stupid the kerfuffle is. Which goes to show I chose my VM friends wisely. Heh. And thank goodness because, so far, I am getting all of the positive and avoiding that sort of crap all together.
Jeez. Bitching about Kristen Bell. People need to get over themselves.
0 C'MON U TOTALLY START3D IT U BITCA!
Apollo's cool as a loose cannon, innt he. Oh, I would analyze but I am too tired. Frak, ask me later.
I totally don't get this. I mean I get the general concept, but it just doesn't make sense to me. Makes me happy that I don't really get around much (er, ever) on the VM forums at TWoP.
I admire your ability to remain sane - I've found myself caught up initially when these reports leak, but luckily it fades pretty quickly. It probably also helps to not read all this wanking in the first place.
|Date:||July 23rd, 2005 10:28 am (UTC)|| |
I am enjoying all of this, seriously. The only time I didn't was when the first E! Kristin spoilers came out and everyone was threatening to jump off a cliff. I've never been so involved in a show fandom before.
Thanks for the links!
Yeah, my lurve for VM has opened my eyes to new worlds. Of fandom craziness. 'Cuz I missed all the Buffy stuff the first time around.
See, this is why I don't do fandom. I mean, y'all have nice pillows and all, but seriously.
Thanks for the links and summary! As much as I find myself getting sucked into some of the madness, I do occasionally step outside of myself and think, "It's just a tv show. The show creators & cast & crew will do what they do. And ultimately, we will watch, and hopefully, enjoy." Yeah, I said occasionally - during the erratic bouts of sanity.
Can we still be friends if I only get two Spanish channels and usually have no idea what the hell you're talking about? I hope so.
|Date:||July 24th, 2005 04:32 am (UTC)|| |
*small voice* I kind of understand freaking out at the news 'cause Duncan's a creepy angerball and I'm real protective of Veronica but then I remember that V has awesome friends like Weevil and Wallance to protect her and Rob has her best interest at heart and holy shit I'm way too emotionally invested in this show. /small voice
No seriously, I just read about it today, 'cause I'm all out of hte loop and shit, so I'm still kinda like, "Huh? Wha' happened? I was asleep!" but really. . . it's kinda hilarious, and a fun summer diversion.
I love fandoms, though. I like to watch the shit hit the fan. . .I was, and am, deep into the MSCL fandom, and Sars herself will tell you stories about the insanity of the Brian v. Jordan flame wars.
Personally, I won't believe it until I see who's at the door but it really bugs that there is so much negativity abound about Kristen.
|Date:||July 25th, 2005 12:22 pm (UTC)|| |
Good to see you getting sucked into BSG. It's a great show. Lots of richness to chew on.
I sort of predicted the VM wank when the spoilers and KB's statement came out. People slaggin' on Kristen really gets me annoyed, like, actors don't get to have opinions? The hell?
I like the VM peeps on my Flist, but the fandom overall is already too crazy for all its youth. Sigh.
Okay, I don't get this at all. To bring up the other tiny blonde actress who otherwise has little to nothing at all to do with VMars, very few people actually wigged out when SMG said that she wanted Buffy to get involved with Spike way back in season 4. I'm pretty sure that most people recognized that she was giving an opinion much as a fan might do, and not as anyone who could alter the rotation of the world.
I, too, hope that it's Duncan at the door. Not because I have any great liking for Veronica and Duncan together; but because it makes the most sense. You know, since the person I'd most like to see at the door really should be making sure his little brother doesn't play with matches. Besides, I have no time for woobified anyone, let alone my beloved psychotic jackass. I may have that "love" icon (not with sick-making capitalization, mind you), but Logan's more interesting when he's fucked up and angry.
Kristen Bell does not seem like a bitch too me, but I have a bad habit of extending character love to the actors who play them. But her opinions on how the storylines should progress could never make her a bitch unless she wanted Veronica to become a Neo-Nazi or something. Hell, even if she is a bitch, I'm not going to complain until she stops doing her job well.
People are just way too protective of their fandoms, and more specifically, their ships. The most interesting fandoms are the ones with a variety of ships, each with their own pros and cons.
Also, I'm friending you. I hope that's okay.
Oh, no, and that's one of the cool things about the show. I say "future" because they have spaceships and killer robots, but it's really shorthand for "advanced civilization." Because we don't know whether they originated from Earth or whether they're going to be the ones to populate it for the first time. We just kind of assume that they've been around at least as long as we've been around because that makes them easier to relate to as a people.