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March 22nd, 2009

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02:08 am - So Much Better Than the One with Lorne Greene
I should write about my Friday night shows, eh? They were kinda big.

Battlestar Galactica

Well, that was half-awesome and half-eyerolly. sdwolfpup has already said most of what I will say, which saves me time.

The first hour was pretty damn sweet. EPIC SPACE BATTLE FTW. Man, when the Galactica was just getting HAMMERED? Motherfucking ouch, you guys. I cannot take my spaceships being hurt like that. (And then later on, after the jump, when it was just FALLING APART? Waaaah.)

Basically, all the action and fighting stuff was pretty awesome, even though I couldn't tell when they were on the Colony and when they were on Galactica. The Centurions in battle were way cool! (And I did not even understand the whole thing with the red stripe until reading reactions later. Even though I HAD THE THOUGHT, "How will they tell which ones are the bad ones?") Also: THE GALACTICA RAMMED INTO THE COLONY HA HA HA HA. That was great.

(And while we're on the subject of lolarious business: ADMIRAL HOSHI AND PRESIDENT ROMO LAMPKIN WHAT??? They really ran out of options there since everyone else was either dead or about to embark on a suicide mission. Good job, Adama, on leaving your precious fleet in such good fucking hands.)

Boomer never knows what fucking side she's on, but I'm glad she ended up on the side of good. Athena could have, like, not pumped her full of bullets, but I guess returning the kid doesn't make up for having stolen her in the first place? (By the way, I think you kinda owed Adama one for SHOOTING HIM IN THE CHEST. I have no idea what sort of owing your flashback was about. Yet I kinda liked it anyway.)

Oh man, so I loved the Opera House vision come to life. If only because it meant the return of "The Shape of Things to Come," which is one of my favorite pieces from the show. But I loved how closely they matched the current action to the shared dream: even though I knew they had no idea this is "what it meant" when they wrote it, I do respect the ability to Use What You Have effectively. When they emerged in the CIC and there were the Final Five standing there, damn. It really felt like destiny. Granted, the whole thing was kind of stupid in that A) what the fuck, Hera, stand the fuck still and B) uh, anyone could have taken Hera to the CIC and, uh, were they not in fact going to do that anyway so that Adama would not cry and cover himself in paint or whatever? The execution of the payoff was way better than the payoff itself. Hera served no real purpose; unlike Jasmine, she WAS just a prize to be won.

I have no idea why Cavil was so willing to go along with the truce after all his tirades about how stupid humans were. He must have just been tired of all the chasing.

I am not sure how much I like the handwave-y OH IT WAS ALL PART OF A DIVINE PLAN explanation for, um, the entire show, but I did find it interesting that the man of science was the man of faith. Baltar truly believed, then, when I don't think he did when he was leading his cult/harem.

Supertense hilarious awesomecakes: Tory being all "Uh, guys, you might see some stuff and, uh, it's all good, right? Right, guys? Guy—" And then Tyrol chokes her to death and no one gives a frak, ever. No, really, no one cares. It's kind of fucking bizarre, honestly. Tigh later says he would have done the same thing, but...geez, you guys, this man has rage issues (as we know from that time he beat up Cally). Just when I was starting to like him again, he becomes a crazed murderer.

And then Cavill shoots himself for some reason. Good idea, Dean Stockwell? I like the one where Tigh kills the bastard, but, hey, guess he was just tired.

Then dead pretty Racetrack accidentally nukes the Colony! Man, this first hour sure was fun times.

Hella awesome: Kara pulling jump coordinates out of the music. Very cool.

But wait, there's more! And...here is where the eyerolly really starts. Because, what, seriously, they're going to give up all their technology and start over? And ANDERS IS GOING TO PILOT THE ENTIRE FLEET INTO THE FUCKING SUN? And THEY LET THE CENTURIONS GO OFF AND EVOLVE TO KILL THEM AGAIN? I...vaguely understand the whole "stopping the cycle of violence" idea, but it felt way too rushed and contrived. And also, teaching Hera how to hunt is not a good way to stop that cycle. (Helo lived! I was glad that he survived even though they made it look like he was a goner.)

And on the subject of Hera...there was nothing special about her! I mean, they went to all that trouble to save her, but there's no good reason why she and only she ends up being mitochondrial Eve when there are nearly 40,000 humans and however many tribal natives on Earth. I mean, hello, founder effect, but still.

So, what, Kara was an angel of God this whole season? A very corporeal angel who pretty much acted like human Kara? And she had a Speshul Destiny because? She was drawing the Eye of Jupiter because? She knew the Cylon music because? Oh, whatever, God did it! That was the answer to everything in this episode.

(They are actually having a two-hour movie event about THE PLAN? Seriously? WE KNOW THEY DIDN'T HAVE A PLAN. YOU GUYS DIDN'T HAVE A PLAN. But yet, I'll be watching to see what they pull out of their asses. Honestly, what I really need is a two-hour movie event about Lee and the pigeon, because what the fuck was that about?)

When Adama flew off with Roslin, I thought there would be some sort of good reason why it was The Final Goodbye, like he was going to fly them into the sun so they could die together or something, or at LEAST that he planned to kill himself as soon as she died, but...instead he's just going to sit there and build a log cabin and live out the rest of his days alone? O...kay.

But, aw, I'm so glad Baltar and Caprica got back together! It all comes full circle! They destroyed humanity on Caprica and then they saved it in the CIC. And all this time, they were being manipulated by...angels from God? That's really what Head!Six and Head!Baltar were? Six said she was an angel back when the show was good but funky_donut is the only person who believed her. They seemed so different in this episode. They were written and acted much more...awkwardly. But I loved the moment when Baltar and Caprica realized they both had Head versions of each other.

And then Ron Moore was kind enough to let J.K. Rowling close out the series for him! Aw. Yeah, that was an anvil if I've ever seen one, although Baltar's comment about "God" not liking that name was an interesting little line to randomly throw into the end of the series and never bother to explain because HA HA IT'S OVER WE NEVER KNEW WHAT WE WERE DOING ANYWAY.

Yeah. BSG. We had some good times, and some annoying times, but they were times, all right.

The Sarah Connor Chronicles

That was intense stuff! A lot of cool shit went down.

The future sub storyline was very interesting. I did not expect a T-1000 to be in the box! And there was all sorts of crazy mutinous stuff that would happen when you let metal pilot a sub (and can I say that I love how this show uses the term "metal"?). And then Jesse randomly loses a baby that we never knew or cared about. I hate when they play the pregnancy card; it always seems so cheap. What did that really add? But I'd rather focus on the fact that talking to Cameron is like talking to John and that John frickin' Connor asked liquid metal to join him. What the shit is going ON in the future?

This episode was full of really awesome scenes that were just people talking. John and Derek discussing how one would fare against Cameron. Sarah and Cameron discussing why Future John would have sent her away. John and Sarah discussing Riley's body. John Henry and Ellison discussing WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE FRIENDS (I totally called that a moment before he said it). John Henry and Catherine discussing HER MURDER COVER-UP CONTINGENCY PLANS.

And, finally, of course, John and Jesse WTF he knew all along. That does feel retconny in a way this show is normally above, but I like that it made John seem a lot smarter. It would have been nice to have gotten a few more hints, although the incidents he mentioned are things we as viewers have picked up on, so it's good that he picked up on them too. But, damn, that scene. You could tell that the kid has finally realized the Burden of Being John Connor. This is the story we've been slowly watching: how DOES Edward Furlong turn into Christian Bale?

I'm not entirely certain whether Derek shot Jesse or not. I feel like if they'd wanted us to think he had, they would have made it clearer because the implication was already that he was going to shoot her. That they didn't show it and that Derek implied that he would follow John Connor's orders makes me lean more to the No column. (Regardless, I am always a fan of "X told me not to do this. I'm not X" lines.)

Cry, John, cry. Being John Connor sucks.


The much-hyped episode six has arrived! And, what the hell, it's pretty good! I loved all the Man on the Street segments because they showed such varied reactions; hell, it's like they were reading reactions to the show and addressing them beforehand. They did not specifically address the idea that sex with an Active is inherently rape, but they did throw in this weird storyline where a Handler rapes an Active! That was...something.

Again, I continue to be more interested in episodes that don't focus on Echo. There was not that much Echo in this episode, and it was good. WHY IS THE MAIN CHARACTER OF THE SHOW THE LANA OF THE SHOW? (Also, Badger, I am fucking tired of being told how hot Eliza Dushku is. Christ.)

(The porn gag was funny, though. "See? Porn!")

I was surprised and confused that Ballard (maybe I can stop calling him Agent Helo now that he's not even an agent?) put the moves on Mellie so quickly after completely ignoring her for five episodes. I guess Patton Oswalt really got to him. They were very sweet together.

Oh man, I love that there are TWENTY DOLLHOUSES scattered across the globe. I had never really considered that idea, but damn. So is the Big Boss that DeWitt was talking to before the head of the whole operation? And there's someone on the inside tampering with the imprint!! Sweet! Is it Lab Tech Yuki? I want her to do something besides check on lunch.

Mellie is a Sleeper Active! Holy crap, that scene was awesome. I think I've come to the conclusion that I heart sleeper agents. They're just too cool. I'm a little confused that Dominick referred to her as a "civilian" before when he clearly knows what she is, but I guess that was just a fakeout? I mean, Mellie is a civilian in some sense, but he was referring to Actives before. I guess it's not too much of a stretch.

Even better is the fact that DeWitt hilariously SENT THAT DUDE TO DIE. Oh, also, I loved that Dominick asked if she had an exit strategy. Because, for reals, shit is going down, and this is a crazy operation.

So I'm much more intrigued now, and I hope the show keeps it up.
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Date:March 22nd, 2009 09:45 am (UTC)
Honestly, what I really need is a two-hour movie event about Lee and the pigeon, because what the fuck was that about?

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Date:March 22nd, 2009 05:36 pm (UTC)
Of course, that makes perfect sense! Why didn't I see it?
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Date:March 22nd, 2009 12:33 pm (UTC)
Dollhouse gets more interesting and engaging with every episode. Though I don't know that I'll ever find it compelling in the same way as Joss's other shows.
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Date:March 22nd, 2009 03:15 pm (UTC)
Yeah, this was actually the first time I've thought about a Dollhouse episode beyond the watching of it (aside from giving a chilly review of the first episode.) I'm definitely more interested now. I had been afraid they were overhyping the "game-changer," but really, it was less of a game-changer and more of a return to form for Joss in the dialogue, the character development and the addressing of sticky things instead of just glossing over them.

And though I agree it was too quick of a transition into the Ballard/Mellie relationship, I will admit that it thrilled me - I was hoping for another Willow to love (and I was glad to see that someone larger than, say, a size 0, was given the chance to be desirable onscreen.) The episode gave me what I look for in a Whedon show - characters I care about, and words that thrill me.

Unfortunately, the very structure and concept of the show previously meant we're held at arm's length from the actives. Thank goodness he realized this and gave us some surrounding characters - because Dushku is one of the least compelling things about it.
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Date:March 22nd, 2009 03:59 pm (UTC)
I'm a little confused that Dominick referred to her as a "civilian" before when he clearly knows what she is, but I guess that was just a fakeout?

Well, didn't he mean it in regards to what Ballard thinks about Mellie? Granted, I'd probably say something more like, "sharing info with what he thinks is a civilian" but I suppose that wouldn't make for fun TV. Even if it I suspected Mellie was an active since we first met her.
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Date:March 22nd, 2009 04:13 pm (UTC)
Baltar's comment about "God" not liking that name was an interesting little line to randomly throw into the end of the series and never bother to explain

My boyfriend's response: Maybe it's because God likes to be called 'Ron Moore'


They did not specifically address the idea that sex with an Active is inherently rape

I think they did address that a bit. Topher starts Echo's engagement by asking if she wants to play the game, which are the exact words Sierra's handler used before he raped her. I thought that was meant to highlight the connection between what happened to Sierra and what happens to these people every day.
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Date:March 22nd, 2009 05:19 pm (UTC)
Ooh, I did not catch that. Interesting.
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Date:March 22nd, 2009 07:11 pm (UTC)
Possibly because I mis-remembered, and all he says is "ready to play?"

I still think it's making the same connection, but a little less explicitly than I'd remembered.
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Date:March 22nd, 2009 08:26 pm (UTC)
Either that or Topher's also a creepy rapist.
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Date:March 22nd, 2009 04:31 pm (UTC)

The thing I want to know about Dollhouse ...

... is: Where do they get all the data that they imprint the dolls with? I'd think that would be a pretty large part of their operation.
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Date:March 22nd, 2009 04:47 pm (UTC)
It hurt me watching Galactica get hammered too! I was cringing through that waiting for them to do something. And I thought of the Boomer owing one too with shooting Adama but she had no control of it so I'll give her a pass at that one.
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Date:March 22nd, 2009 06:38 pm (UTC)
Oh man, I love that there are TWENTY DOLLHOUSES scattered across the globe.

Like Wolfram & Hart having offices in every major city.
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Date:March 22nd, 2009 06:53 pm (UTC)
The operation is totally funded by the Senior Partners, isn't it.
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Date:March 22nd, 2009 07:24 pm (UTC)
Wait until lodessa reveals the fanon backstory we've been putting together about W&H being the higher-ups.
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Date:March 22nd, 2009 07:05 pm (UTC)
Hi! Come back from yonder town!

I didn't watch BSG but I talked to people WHILE they were watching it! It was like watching it but without all the overindulgent preachiness!

(I, um, may have reached a peak in my BSG bitterness....)
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Date:March 22nd, 2009 08:37 pm (UTC)
Hera served no real purpose; unlike Jasmine, she WAS just a prize to be won.

Unexpected Aladdin reference is unexpected! Everyone else is going with Lion King references for this episode, so I appreciate the Disney diversity. And I agree with the point- Hera's only purpose was to survive until Earth and then die young as our collective ancestor? Uh, ok.

I also think the "happy" conclusion that they stopped the cylon/human cycle of violence is beside the point. We still ended up with a society that has nuclear weapons. Even if the Centurions don't come back, we could still completely annihilate ourselves. But, no, RDM wants us to worry about Japanese robots instead of nuclear holocaust. *eye roll*

I'm so annoyed at this ending, I think I just need to let it go...
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Date:March 22nd, 2009 10:24 pm (UTC)
I was okay with the BSG finale. Kara as an Angel bugs, but I'm not gonna get worked up over it, I'm mostly happy that the show is DONE.

Date:March 23rd, 2009 08:01 pm (UTC)
Oh, whatever, God did it!

Haha! Although that was actually one of my fave things about the conclusion, not that they used a deus ex machina the way a lot of fans are complaining, but that they went back and followed those earlier thread about divine plans and inspirations. I was afraid they would just drop them, the way TV shows often do-- raise intriguing stuff and then just forget about it.

Also the happy ending quality of the finish delighted me because it was very unexpected for this show of all shows, and yet it worked. Another big surprise I didn't see coming. And I think such surprised are covered in awesome sauce, as long as they don't feel forced, which this didn't for me.

So, what, Kara was an angel of God this whole season? I read somewhere that she was not an angel, but more like resurrected. Or maybe reincarnated? I thought her character arc seemed a bit like Gandalf's.

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Date:March 24th, 2009 03:11 am (UTC)
It was rather an impressive Fridey of TV!!!

BSG - wasn't perfect but I really enjoyed it. Some great moments and I'm really glad they didn't go the EVERYBODY DIES route. :)

SCC - I think my main issue with this show is that it often meanders about with excellent character stories at the expense of awesomesauce story arc stuff, and I worry that might not help its survival chances for a 3rd season. However this episode was totally awesome and delivered plenty of both in spades. Liquid metal omg great. I will miss Jesse, she is hot.

Dollhouse - this was I think the first excellent episode of this show!!! I had been wondering whether Friendly!Neighbour was an active since we first saw her, then just when I was thinking that maybe she wasn't when DeWitt sends Rapey!Handler to kill her... OMG SHE WAS! They packed a whole bunch of awesome into this, and I only wish it hadn't been up against the BSG finale, it must have gotten battered in the ratings over there. :(

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Date:March 24th, 2009 03:16 am (UTC)
Actually, the ratings were fairly decent, and there's actually a glimmer of hope for a second season. Or something.
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Date:March 24th, 2009 08:22 am (UTC)
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Date:March 26th, 2009 03:25 pm (UTC)
Totally late to the party cos I didn't want to read this post til I'd seen BSG, upon which subject I have nothing to say that you haven't said already. (Apart from agreeing that the toaster-on-toaster smackdown was geektastic.)

But as to Dollhouse, didn't RapeyHandler say something to Adelle questioning why what he did to Sierra was any different from what goes on during engagements? I thought the whole episode was implicitly addressing the skeevyness of what they send dolls out to do, what with the aforementioned and also Agent Helo being unimpressed with Patton Oswalt's fantasy including sex.

Also, yay me, I unlurkified!
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Date:March 26th, 2009 03:28 pm (UTC)
Hey, you!

Good point about Dollhouse. I think those bits do show they're aware of the rape aspect, which is good.
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Date:April 9th, 2009 11:26 pm (UTC)
I'm so totally late to this, because I *just* finally watched the season finale of BSG...and I came back to your entry to see what you had to say about it, and look - you mentioned me!

That's really what Head!Six and Head!Baltar were? Six said she was an angel back when the show was good but [info]funky_donut is the only person who believed her.

...I do not even remember taking that poll! That's hilarious!

Um, so, everyone else has moved on to not thinking about BSG anymore, so I will just briefly say that there were parts of it that were badass and parts that sucked royally. The best was definitely the reenactment of the Opera House. The worst - probably WTF WAS KARA AND WHY DID SHE DISAPPEAR WTF.

Ahem. So, yeah, anyway, your post just totally made my day, because: I win because I believed Six 3 1/2 years ago when I had just started watching the show! Which I did not even remember until now! Go me! ;)
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Date:April 9th, 2009 11:29 pm (UTC)
...I do not even remember taking that poll! That's hilarious!
Hee. Well, you were right!

I win because I believed Six 3 1/2 years ago when I had just started watching the show! Which I did not even remember until now! Go me! ;)
Go you!

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