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May 30th, 2008


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12:11 am - Truly, It Really Must Be Bunnies
Um, why is no one else terribly excited that SHIRLEY MANSON IS GOING TO BE A REGULAR ON THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES??? (Spoiler warning: the article gives the briefest description of her role.)

I'm a huge Garbage fan, you guys. Numbers don't lie. This is going to be awesome. And she's keeping her Scottish accent!

SPEAKING OF THINGS THAT ARE AWESOME:

If you didn't watch the rerun before the finale, you probably didn't hear about the added press conference scenes.

The rerun also included ABC's high-tech pop-up technology, and, oh my God, it is THE MOST INANE THING I HAVE EVER SEEN. They pop up every fucking second to explain things to people who have NEVER SEEN AN EPISODE OF LOST. Or perhaps LACK THE COGNITIVE SKILLS OF A CHIMPANZEE. Seriously, they fucking explain every little piece of dialogue, every character action. Like when Ben is all, "You heard Locke. We're going to move the Island." And then the little pop-up says, "In the previous episode, 'Cabin Fever,' Locke received instructions from Jacob to move the island."

OH. REALLY. YOU THINK?

"In the previous episode, Desmond chose to stay on the boat." You know what? I think I got that from the part where Desmond is on the boat. "Sun and Jin did not know Michael was on the boat." Oooooh. I did not get that from THEIR REACTIONS.

They fill in every possible mental gap. It's so frickin' irritating. Once in a while, they're remotely helpful by mentioning relevant shit from many episodes and/or seasons ago, but most of the time, it's stupid shit.

Anyway, the most important thing we learned in the extended press conference was that the three people who died on the Island (8 got off the boat, 5 survived, and Aaron is the +1) were Boone, Libby, and Charlie. Which is a really odd mix. Why Boone and not Shannon? What's the story of Michael? Don't they hate him? It would be fun to make him fake die, right? Maybe the people they chose have no hidden meaning (because if they did, perhaps they would have told us so IN THE ORIGINAL AIRING).

I really wanted that question answered, though, so it was cool to hear. But it made one of the reporter's questions completely ludicrous in this version: she asks if Jin was one of the people who died on the Island. But...Jack just told her the three people who died on the Island! That's sloppy as hell.

The other new question was about Sayid's and Jack's future plans. Sayid says there's nothing in Iraq for him, and Jack's not sure about what his plans are except that he wants to have a funeral for his dad.

The rest of the episode is normal, so let's move onto the new stuff!!

They picked up from the end of the S3 finale! Nice!! And they name the dude in the coffin as...Jeremy Bentham. Which I could swear is actually the name people picked up from the shot of the obituary last year, but no one knew what the fuck it meant. And, like most people, I heard "Jeremy Bentham."

The first half was a lot of setup, really. Like I said before, I love the crazy direction the storytelling has taken this season because it's creating excitement by spoiling you on purpose. So you can see that the Others' taking out the mercenaries and making a deal with Kate and Sayid gets the rest of the Oceanic Six on the chopper. But, wait, Sawyer's on the chopper! Shit shit shit! So you're waiting to see what happens to him, and, sure enough, he jumps out of the damn thing in a noble sacrifice.

Meanwhile, in the future, Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalt grew the fuck up! Damn. I think they had to incorporate time travel just to make Malcolm David Kelley's growth spurt make sense for the character. Although, come to think of it, there's no time travel involved there. They got him off the Island in time, and he grew naturally to 2007.

And then underground, dude, it's the Orchid video! If you want to see more, check it out!! And that's been around since last year. They showed it at Comic-Con!

"If you mean time-traveling bunnies, then yes" has to be one of the best lines ever on this show.

Oh! And what the fuck is up with Miles and Charlotte and Faraday?? What does Miles know about Charlotte? I thought they were all supposed to be strangers. And was Charlotte born on the Island? I thought pregnant women died on the Island. And did Faraday know the ship was going to blow up? Or did he know about moving the Island?

And back to Ben: "So?" Holy shit, that's cold. But he was emotional! I still love you, Ben! You weren't thinking straight! He killed your daughter! Well, your fake daughter. But your love was real.

So, the boat! Just how many of the Lostaways were on that boat? Faraday only made one or two trips, right? He was only able to bring a dozen or so people from the Island, which was why it was so weird that he was all, "You have to be on this next trip, trust me!" This is an essential question for me because I wasn't completely sure about it during the show. There's no way he brought over nearly everyone only to GET THEM ALL BLOWN UP, right? There are regular Nikkis and Paolos still left on the actual Island? Next season is going to have fewer extras, eh?

Man, those freaky whispers are freaky. And Jack's dad! WHY ARE YOU EVERYWHERE? ALSO IS CLAIRE DEAD OR WHAT?

(I find it ironic that Michael's fake mission was to blow up the boat. And here he is...blowing up with the boat.)

Jin! Nooooooo. Sun's screaming struck my damn soul.

Ben's apology for making Locke's life "so miserable" was odd. Has he really made Locke's life, specifically, more miserable than others'? And did he mean his life before the Island too? Who sent Alpert to him all those years ago? Ben was just a kid growing up in New Otherton at the time.

But what the fuck was that random cold-ass room in the middle of the Island?? And there's just this GIANT WHEEL THAT YOU CAN TURN WTF. And that's how Ben ends up in the desert. In 2005.

The Island just disappearing like that? WAS TOTALLY FUCKING AWESOME. I am somewhat disappointed that they didn't even tease us with where or when it turns up. Also, I'm sure they did this long, long ago, but this means they have officially completely and utterly thrown out the old "There's a plausible scientific explanation for everything, we promise."

What happened to Faraday?? Didn't he fucking watch the Island disappear? Was he in the field? I mean, otherwise, that raft is just stranded in the ocean forever, and that's just not right! DESMOND HAS TO BE HIS CONSTANT.

Aaaaugh helicopter crash. I was so afraid for Desmond. But Jack didn't have to do craaaaazy CPR this time! Regular CPR worked just fine. Whew.

And it's PENNY'S BOAT! NOT NOT PENNY'S BOAT! Penny and Desmond! Yay!! She tracked him from his phone call! That actually makes sense and is not just a contrivance that a boat finally arrives just at this time!

I thought the whole thing about the Lie was really weirdly done. Because the idea originally came from Locke, who wanted to protect the Island. And when Jack brings up that they're going to have to lie, everyone is all, "Whaaaaaaat?" Because...the truth makes a lot of sense? Were they really going to tell people they were on this crazy island with a smoke monster and polar bears and hatches and all manner of weird shit? A cover story seems like a damn sensible thing, really. And Jack frames the motive in a different way (to protect the people on the Island), but he uses this weird phrase: "What if they find out that wasn't the plan?" What wasn't the plan? I didn't understand that. I understand that people came to kill everyone on the Island, and if they think there are still people alive on the Island, they will try to kill them again, but what if who finds out what plan?

(I love the Internet! Kate's weird phone call before the Claire scare? Reversed audio. Listen for yourself! Creepy times!)

Finally, we're back to the FLASH/FORWARD funeral parlor. We never saw what caused Jack's breakdown, did we? We met him all bearded and angsty at the beginning of the finale last year? If you piece together the flash-forwards, there's sort of a jump from regular Jack to crazy Jack. Anyway...it's not Ben in the coffin! Woohoo! Instead, it's LOCKE! Which...wait, why is he off the Island?? Locke would never leave that place. Did he move the Island again and get banished? If he did, would his body be allowed back? And when Ben says that everyone needs to go back, does he mean Walt too? Also, WHY DID HE MOVE THE ISLAND IN THE FIRST PLACE? BECAUSE JACOB SAID SO? WHAT DID IT ACCOMPLISH? WHO THE FUCK IS JACOB? WHAT IS GOING ON?

I love this show.

And since we need as large a sample size as possible on this:

Which would you rather have?

Regenerating salami foot
6(14.6%)
Regenerating cheese hand
35(85.4%)

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From:latropita
Date:May 30th, 2008 07:15 am (UTC)
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Shirleeeeeeeey!!

Cheese, but of course. Salami is gross, cheese is delicious.
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From:ryca
Date:May 30th, 2008 07:58 am (UTC)
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Agreed on the "time traveling bunnies" line being the best (possibly of the whole series) but can't forget "Couldn't find the [flowers] huh?"/"I don't know what they look like" exchange. Also, I loved Miles' anvilicious "What DO I mean??!?" and funny face - priceless, and refreshingly self-aware of the show itself.

Also loved Hurley's chess game.

And omg so much stuff that still confuses the ever-loving heck out of me. And Jin - nooooooooooooooo! In my mind, he's still swimming, dammit, towards Faraday's boat or something. Yeah, that's it.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:May 30th, 2008 08:05 am (UTC)
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Also, I loved Miles' anvilicious "What DO I mean??!?" and funny face - priceless, and refreshingly self-aware of the show itself.
Yes!! That was so meta. Hee.

I also loved the bit about the flowers. And Hurley's chess game with Mr. Eko!
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From:roxybisquaint
Date:May 30th, 2008 08:15 am (UTC)
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"In the previous episode, Desmond chose to stay on the boat." You know what? I think I got that from the part where Desmond is on the boat.

LOL - This is why I don't watch the pop-up reruns normally. I did tonight though.

But, wait, Sawyer's on the chopper! Shit shit shit! So you're waiting to see what happens to him

Wasn't that fun? You know the Oceanic 6 are getting off, so the whole time I'm trying to keep track of where they all are and how they're all going to get to the boat.

(I find it ironic that Michael's fake mission was to blow up the boat. And here he is...blowing up with the boat.)

Jin! Nooooooo. Sun's screaming struck my damn soul.


Expecting Jin to die, but kind of hoping maybe he doesn't meant I did a lot of yelling at him to get the fuck out of that room of C4 and go up on deck with Sun. Argg. Why didn't he listen? And yeah sooooooooooooooo sad when Sun started screaming :(

I completely forgot about Michael's fake mission to blow up the boat! Yes, irony at its best there.

.Jeremy Bentham. Which I could swear is actually the name people picked up from the shot of the obituary last year

Yeah it was (or close to it). It also said the man hung himself and was survived by a teenage son (one of the reasons I was sure it would be Michael). Although Damon and Carlton later said the info on the obituary was irrelevant and should be ignored as a prop not meant to be read. And yet here we have the name. You can't trust those guys!

he uses this weird phrase: "What if they find out that wasn't the plan?" What wasn't the plan? I didn't understand that. I understand that people came to kill everyone on the Island, and if they think there are still people alive on the Island, they will try to kill them again, but what if who finds out what plan?

PLANE, not plan:
"What do you think's going to happen to us when we tell them that that wasn't out plane?"

We never saw what caused Jack's breakdown, did we?

The breakdown was prompted by the Jeremy Bentham obituary, but he was obviously on a downward spiral anyway. I don't think we really know all the reasons why yet. Seeing his dad in the hospital lobby? Thigns going bad with Kate? Not sure.



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From:spectralbovine
Date:May 30th, 2008 08:21 am (UTC)
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PLANE, not plan:
"What do you think's going to happen to us when we tell them that that wasn't out plane?"

That makes so much more sense!!

You know the Oceanic 6 are getting off, so the whole time I'm trying to keep track of where they all are and how they're all going to get to the boat.
And then the boat becomes a ticking time bomb so you're like, fuuuuck, now what's the escape plan??
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From:loopychew
Date:May 30th, 2008 08:18 am (UTC)
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No, you are very much not the only person psyched about Shirley Manson on SCC. She was one of the first major rock sex goddesses for me. Where does it say she's gonna keep her accent, out of curiosity?

Also, I chose cheese hand, because while I keep my foot in my mouth frequently enough, I prefer my foods be more readily accessible. Also, can I choose which type of cheese (or salami, for that matter) I get to regenerate?

Still waiting on your thoughts on the HIMYM finale. :-)
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From:spectralbovine
Date:May 30th, 2008 08:23 am (UTC)
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Where does it say she's gonna keep her accent, out of curiosity?
In my inbox.

Also, can I choose which type of cheese (or salami, for that matter) I get to regenerate?
This is indeed a matter of discussion. I think the possibility is there.

Still waiting on your thoughts on the HIMYM finale.
I can't write about EVERYTHING!
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From:loopychew
Date:May 30th, 2008 08:27 am (UTC)
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I can't write about EVERYTHING!
And THAT'S why you shouldn't be on the LJ Advisory Board, beeyotch!
From:sainfoin_fields
Date:May 30th, 2008 06:28 pm (UTC)
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Oh yeah? CAN YOU CITE YOUR INBOX??
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From:spectralbovine
Date:May 30th, 2008 06:35 pm (UTC)
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I'm not sure how MLA format would handle it.
From:sainfoin_fields
Date:May 30th, 2008 06:37 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, I think you're making this up.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:May 30th, 2008 06:41 pm (UTC)
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Are...you being serious? Why would I make it up?
oh, and yes, she's going to have her scottish accent.
There.
From:sainfoin_fields
Date:May 30th, 2008 06:42 pm (UTC)
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I just want a source! A SOUUUURCE.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:May 30th, 2008 06:56 pm (UTC)
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I've mentioned him a few times in posts before, but I'm trying to be less flashy this time around. People wouldn't recognize his name anyway. He was a producer's assistant on VM, and now he works on SCC.

And I just Googled his name and got my VM set tour post. D'oh. At least I have said nothing incriminating.
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From:darlingviolenta
Date:May 30th, 2008 11:24 am (UTC)
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All salami is disgusting, while cheese is pretty much the best food invented (some types, anyway).

Also, all feet are icky, while hands are only gross if you're a gross person and never wash them or something.

So there should be no question either on type of food or on body part.
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From:porpentine
Date:May 30th, 2008 12:28 pm (UTC)
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As I only heard about Shirley Manson from you, I didn't have time to be excited before. Now? Now I am TOTALLY psyched!

But as for the current mindfuck of discussion: that episode just makes me go "Dude!" alot. But hey, I have answers to your queries...

So, the boat! Just how many of the Lostaways were on that boat? Faraday only made one or two trips, right? He was only able to bring a dozen or so people from the Island, which was why it was so weird that he was all, "You have to be on this next trip, trust me!" This is an essential question for me because I wasn't completely sure about it during the show. There's no way he brought over nearly everyone only to GET THEM ALL BLOWN UP, right? There are regular Nikkis and Paolos still left on the actual Island? Next season is going to have fewer extras, eh?

There was only one boatload of Lostaways on the boat when it went boom, that being the load with Jin and Sun. Boat took off, loaded up on beach with Faraday pushing for certain people, and started back -- and that's the load we saw when the sky went wonky and the island went blip! Otherwise, I'm sure we would have seen Sun and co. reacting to another load of people arriving on the ship, with the happy news of "hi, guess what WE have down below decks!"

As for why he was so adamant about people being on -this- load? I think, given his notes about The Orchid in his journal, he knew there was VERY limited time between hearing that people were heading for that station and the island being moved. So he was angling to grab the 'essentials' -- the people he knew (Miles and Charlotte), and the one on the beach that Jack would, by observation, be most upset not to have (aka Juliet). I don't think he knew about the bomb or was trying to get anyone blown up out there. Really, even with motives unclear for all the new folks from the boat, he doesn't seem the type, especially when he was the one pushing to get people off the island before 'bad things happened' ASAP.

And in my perfect world, Jin jumped off the damn ship before it exploded -- or maybe got knocked off in the blast wave, and was unconscious in the water for a bit hence the chopper seeing nobody down there, before Faraday's boat got to the scene and dragged him out. I think, just from the perspective of story logic, they have to have Faraday's boat jump with the island. If nothing else, Charlotte and Miles are clearly ending up as regular Lostaways for next season. Given connection to Faraday for Charlotte, I can't see them just ignoring what happened to the little boat entirely, and I suspect they would have been found by Penny's ship if it were still in the here and now. But that's just my guess for now.

Plus? Doesn't it add some delicious twisted irony if Sun's willing to help Widmore out because she thinks Jin is dead, and it turns out he's really alive and well when she gets back to the island? (because, please, we all know the Oceanic 6 + Locke are going back...they can't not. Though now I wonder if we're gonna get Ben finding a loophole so he can go back too, while we're at it.)

My one real sadness, for all the perfection of Penny and Desmond finding each other -- I worry that means Desmond's officially gotten his happy ending and is out of the picture from this point forward, and we're losing him as a regular.
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From:the_partyman
Date:May 30th, 2008 12:55 pm (UTC)
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My hands want to typ lots of stuf about the wonderful whatthefuckery that was the LOST finale, but I think my brain needs moe time to recover.

No, really... I had high expectations for this and it genuinely surpassed them.

thanks for the reversed audio linkage... freaky!
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From:harper47
Date:May 30th, 2008 01:11 pm (UTC)
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I didn't watch the extended press conference so thanks for posting that. What? Weird.

I loved it. Loved it.

I've got more but I've got work biting my butt.

I very much enjoyed your comments.
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From:duchessdogberry
Date:May 30th, 2008 05:01 pm (UTC)
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Shirley Manson can act?

I do have quite a crush on her, though.

And, for more record: CHEESE HAND!
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From:spectralbovine
Date:May 30th, 2008 05:09 pm (UTC)
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Shirley Manson can act?
We'll find out. She wouldn't have gotten that big a role without acing multiple auditions.

And, for more record: CHEESE HAND!
Obviously.
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From:honeybunnylilb
Date:May 30th, 2008 09:28 pm (UTC)
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Think how awkward it would be for most people to eat their foot? If you've got any kind of belly (see Hurley) it's near impossible to bite your toes much less your foot. That salami foot would be a complete waste. The cheese hand is more accessible, tasty and practical.

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