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February 11th, 2008


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10:51 pm - Cake and Grief Counseling Will Be Available at the Conclusion of the Test
I'm nine episodes into Cowboy Bebop and really liking it! I'm watching it subbed, even though dubbed won the poll, because I am a fan of principles, even when they're made-up. People were right about it being very episodic, but there are little hints of backstory regarding Spike and the worldbuilding that intrigue me amidst the entertainment.

And I totally forgot the Skins premiere was today or else I wouldn't have used my Skins icon yesterday. You don't understand how annoyed I am to be forced to use the same icon two posts in a row. Damn my principles, made-up as they are.

Skins

Oh my God, Tony is so sad and pathetic now. I don't know if I like this. They turned him into Jason Street! But, just as FNL did, the premiere painfully explores all the ripples and ramifications the accident had on the group.

(Except for Anwar, who is still a twat. Oh my God, why does he suck so much?)

Maxxie's dad is Bill Bailey! Holy crap! I was wondering whether we ever met his parents because I was trying to remember how exactly each kid's parents sucked. And Bill Bailey doesn't suck that much, really! He's pretty regular for a dad. And he calls Jal "Funny Name," which is hilarious...because did we know her full name was Jalander before?

Cassie is in Scotland for some reason! Aw, Cassie. Scottish dancing. Sending Sid drugs and a pin.

I was so afraid Sid was going to go after Michelle or something, but thank goodness that's not where it was going. They're the two people closest to Tony, and we don't get to spend a lot of time with them except to see that they're kind of destroyed by the accident, especially Michelle, who spirals into self-destruction after a fucking bus rips away the potential for a New and Improved Tony who loves her and doesn't treat her like shit. Now they're left with this Tony who can barely remember he used to be a freaky sociopath, let alone write his own name. And he misses Tony. I miss Tony too.

The Sarah Connor Chronicles

I heart continuity! They're really milking this Jordon girl's death. And Andy! Who gets killed by an unknown assailant! Poor Andy.

Also: I swear to God, it's like this show is LISTENING TO US. Because there was all this discussion/confusion about whether Sarah had actually set fire to Andy's house or whether the freedom fighter did and Sarah had been on her way to kill Andy. The latter interpretation made no sense to me in the context of the episode, and this episode double-confirmed that the former was correct!

The grief counseling scene was pretty great. And the guidance counselor was clearly sleeping with Jordon. Like, OMG, this is totally The O.C. with robots.

Except, no! As miniglik points out, it's 90210 with robots, courtesy of Brian Austin Green (so that's why he's appearing at WonderCon!). Who's actually Derek Reese! John's uncle! Who hates Cameron! This will be interesting.

Has Cromartie never seen a cell phone before, or does Vibrate mess with his sensors? Is he like Venom or something?

That scene with Cameron killing the T-888 was really interesting. It was almost as if she'd never seen the chip before, the essence of her "species," as it were. And after all the talk of grieving and death, she clearly felt something as she did that. As she killed a robot. A robot!

I love that this show clearly made Charley an EMT just so he could prove useful AT THIS VERY MOMENT. Wow. I should have seen that coming, and yet, I did not. Well played.

But penalty on Sarah Connor! For God's sake, the goal of chess is not annihilation. It's simply to capture the king. That's the beauty of chess. I love a good chess/war analogy as much as Lex Luthor, but, Jesus, woman, that whole closing voiceover was a mess. And I'm on your side with those things.
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From:miniglik
Date:February 12th, 2008 06:57 am (UTC)
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Has Cromartie never seen a cell phone before, or does Vibrate mess with his sensors? Is he like Venom or something?


Perhaps he's just one those anal people that's all "answer your PHONE asshole?"

For God's sake, the goal of chess is not annihilation.

I'm still all obsessed with the Two Kings metaphor, with Skynet v. John Connor. Annihilation not necessary. Just knock out ONE GUY/ENTITY, forever, and it's over.

It's better to ignore excessive voice overs, don't you know? She's still better than Mohinder, but below Dexter and Veronica.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:February 12th, 2008 07:00 am (UTC)
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Perhaps he's just one those anal people that's all "answer your PHONE asshole?"
Ha! And...we never found out who was calling, did we.

I'm still all obsessed with the Two Kings metaphor, with Skynet v. John Connor. Annihilation not necessary. Just knock out ONE GUY/ENTITY, forever, and it's over.
That is an AWESOME metaphor because you are AWESOME.

It's better to ignore excessive voice overs, don't you know? She's still better than Mohinder, but below Dexter and Veronica.
True. But I have gone on record as liking her voiceovers, and she goes and disappoints me this week. Geez.
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From:miniglik
Date:February 12th, 2008 07:04 am (UTC)
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That is an AWESOME metaphor because you are AWESOME.


I'm glad you like my idea, because NO ONE ELSE DOES. *pouts*

It's better to ignore excessive voice overs, don't you know? She's still better than Mohinder, but below Dexter and Veronica.

Aw. She can't help it they must tie up all thematic threads in a voice over monologue every week. Some weeks her thoughts are bound to suck. As well as her thought-pronounciation. (I love that criticism: you pronounced it wrong... IN YOUR HEAD.)

Oh, oh! I had a thought! Where did it go? Fuck.
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From:daynr
Date:February 12th, 2008 03:21 pm (UTC)
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I like your two kings LOADS, but I think knocking out a king forever is annihilation. The king is down, the king is down! Or dead. Or annihilated. Buh-bye! See, e.g. wizard's chest, HP the first movie.
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From:jenepel
Date:February 12th, 2008 11:44 am (UTC)
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I just watched the Skins premiere last night, and it's so weird, but in my head I made the Jason Street comparison too. It's probably just because I only started watching FNL this week, so it was fresh for me. (That show never made it over here - not that I think the UK is in any way its target audience!)

Nice to know that someone other than me watches Skins though!
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From:harper47
Date:February 12th, 2008 12:15 pm (UTC)
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I love the fact that BAG is playing Kyle's brother. And yes the grief counseling scene was very well done. I enjoyed that little dance.
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From:maidofawesome
Date:February 12th, 2008 12:41 pm (UTC)
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Yep, we did know that about Jal's name. I think it was in her episode, or something. I know what you mean about Tony! I started hating him by the end, but I miss evil sociopath Tony! I'm not sure if I liked it, but when he wrote his name, I was smiling. I couldn't believe how much younger he looked! Interesting what you can do with body language and a lack of styling gel.

Anwar was really dumb and stupid, but funny for about five seconds. I wonder if that means the sucker punch is around the corner - you know, 'Look how fun and stupid Anwar is! Let's strip it all away!' I'm worried for Maxxie. I read an interview with the girl who plays Michelle, and she said that there are two deaths in this season - but she said it could be main cast or ancillary characters. So now I'm worried for Maxxie.

Cassie being in Scotland was mentioned in the end of s1, she was moving away, and that's why it was sad. But she looked sweet and happy! I liked her dancing.

I'm hoping we'll get to see a better Michelle this season, because her whole identity in s1 was Tony's Girlfriend, and I kind of think that's why she's in self destruct mode, because she doesn't know who she is anymore.

I think I liked it, though! I want to see the next episode like, now, anyway!
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From:spectralbovine
Date:February 12th, 2008 04:20 pm (UTC)
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I know what you mean about Tony! I started hating him by the end, but I miss evil sociopath Tony!
Me too!

I'm not sure if I liked it, but when he wrote his name, I was smiling.
Yeah!

I couldn't believe how much younger he looked! Interesting what you can do with body language and a lack of styling gel.
He did look very different. I even rewatched the bus scene, and it's really drastic.

I read an interview with the girl who plays Michelle, and she said that there are two deaths in this season - but she said it could be main cast or ancillary characters. So now I'm worried for Maxxie.
Oh crap! I didn't know that! And I was worried for Maxxie when he was ambushed in the forest.

Cassie being in Scotland was mentioned in the end of s1, she was moving away, and that's why it was sad. But she looked sweet and happy! I liked her dancing.
And it looks like she and Sid had a lot of sex beforehand.

I'm hoping we'll get to see a better Michelle this season, because her whole identity in s1 was Tony's Girlfriend, and I kind of think that's why she's in self destruct mode, because she doesn't know who she is anymore.
Mmm, good point.

I think I liked it, though! I want to see the next episode like, now, anyway!
Yeah!
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From:daynr
Date:February 12th, 2008 03:28 pm (UTC)
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I can't believe I'm getting hooked on a stupid fox show, which will probably get canceled. But I am! And I'm finally done rolling my eyes are Summer as Cameron (bc everyone is always telling me she's amazing and River was BEAUTIFUL and I hate being told that shit) to finding her Cameron awesome. Like, I stop snerking at her robotness.

I'm not sure I'd say she felt something, so much as she was exploring what she thinks the humans felt and what she should, etc. etc. I feel like it's an intellectual enterprise, bc she has to know if they succeed her brethren won't come about. Course, that intellectual poking at a sore tooth may be feeling for her, I ain't no robot.

I'm overly chatty today. But Skins! I had to go back and rewatch part of season 1 bc I couldn't remember Tony got hit. I don't know how I feel about it all, except I LOVE MAXXIE. I did last year,too, with the whole Anwar/blowjobTony thing, but this was GREAT.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:February 12th, 2008 04:24 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, Maxxie was pretty great in this episode, the way he looked after Tony.
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From:loopychew
Date:February 12th, 2008 03:30 pm (UTC)
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Well, so long as you try out the Hellsing dub, I'll be happy. (Although the original Japanese voices were also kickass.)

One thing I've always wondered: If the basic concept behind the Terminator franchise is that there will pretty much inevitably be a SkyNet, could there not, by the same token, inevitably be a John Connor-esque figure who will lead the Resistance to victory in the future war against the machines?
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From:maka2000
Date:February 12th, 2008 07:01 pm (UTC)
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I don't have an appropriate icon. WHY don't I have a Skins icon? Still?!

I haven't seen the Skins premiere yet, but I'm so happy it's back. Even though it sounds like there's major sadness going on with handicapable Tony. I, personally, was hoping he was dead, but I guess it's good they're all clearly still dealing with him getting hit by a frickin' giant truck. I don't want Cassie to be in Scotland though! I remembered her parents were sending her there, but I thought she got out of it somehow since she blew off her flight to sit with Sid on a hill and be CUTE. Or so I thought.

You know, The Sarah Connor Chronicles is my favorite new show. I just really dig it. I even said aloud, at the end, "this show kicks ass" - it's just really really fun to watch! It's the only show on right now that makes me wish it was the next week already just so I could get a new episode.

Because there was all this discussion/confusion about whether Sarah had actually set fire to Andy's house

Hmm, I knew she set fire to his house. *pumps fist* But I didn't read forums or anything really so I didn't get all confuzzled by other people's confusion.

she clearly felt something as she did that. As she killed a robot. A robot!

I thought that was very interesting. I'm not quite sold on the idea that she Really felt something. I'm still trying to decide if it was that, or if she was just processing, processing, processing. I do LOVE the idea though, since we already know she's an "Unknown Cyborg" to the other Terminators. I like the idea that she's a new evolutionary step in their development and that she DOES get to feel things. And I have been wondering if she does feel some things to a certain extent already, and is just REALLY frickin good at hiding it - like in the one episode, (I can't remember which since I watched a whole slew of them together), where John gets locked in that truck and Sarah is freaking. Sarah says Cameron couldn't possibly understand what she was feeling at that moment, but Cameron answered - quickly - that "you feel like your life is meaningless without him..." (Or something.) I thought that was Very interesting of Cameron to spout that out so fast. It made me wonder if she "feels" for Future John, since I personally think Future John made her, or if she just brought up a fact sheet in her database lickity split. I love that she's all mysterious!

I find that I zone out during Sarah's VO - I don't hate them but I have a short attention span. D'oh.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:February 12th, 2008 07:34 pm (UTC)
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I'm not quite sold on the idea that she Really felt something. I'm still trying to decide if it was that, or if she was just processing, processing, processing.
Yeah, that's more what I meant, really. Not actual feeling, but the clear beginnings of such a thing. Attempting to process an emotional response, which is a big step in and of itself.

I really dig SCC too! It's surpassed my expectations.
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From:soundingsea
Date:February 13th, 2008 02:43 am (UTC)
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Maybe Sarah doesn't want to think about the fate of the king too closely; unreliable narrator and all that, she is. After all, the king has to be protected, and if you lose him, it's all over. Gee, who does that sound like (to Sarah)?

Also: I swear to God, it's like this show is LISTENING TO US.

Yay! *pumps fist*

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From:soundingsea
Date:February 13th, 2008 03:14 am (UTC)
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I'm nine episodes into Cowboy Bebop and really liking it! I'm watching it subbed, even though dubbed won the poll, because I am a fan of principles, even when they're made-up.

Subbed ftw (and I'm so glad you're enjoying Bebop!)
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