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August 17th, 2007


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09:55 am - It's a Lion! It's Huge!
In honor of having finished The Golden Compass last night (flail!), I offer you my dæmon for you all to play with and change:



I think the first time I did it, I got a silver fox, though. That seems to fit me more than a frickin' lion. Make it a fox! Get me righter than I got myself!

I'm picking up The Subtle Knife and The Amber Spyglass at the library tonight, so please don't spoil me! I will likely make a His Dark Materials post when I'm done, just for atropos116 and hobviously to flail around in.

The movie looks pretty cool, and now I can identify specific scenes from the book in the trailer, which is nice.

Behind the cut, however, I offer a slightly spoilery poll for people who have read the book:

Poll #1040814 Whose dark materials, now?

If they removed all explicit references to religion and God from the movie, what the hell is up with Dust?

It's MAGIC dust, made of MAGIC, and it clings to adults because they have no MAGIC in their hearts, making them a MAGIC vacuum by virtue of elementary diffusion.
18(56.2%)
It's stardust! The oldest substance in the universes, which, if harnessed, can turn people into stars.
2(6.2%)
Lyra's world is just reeeeeeeeeally dirty, you guys. And they want to get rid of Dust because cleanliness is next to godliness. I mean, MAGICliness.
6(18.8%)
OUR world is just reeeeeeeeeally dirty, you guys. That's pollution! The Aurora punches a hole through the OZONE LAYER.
1(3.1%)
There is no Dust. Parallel universes are cool enough without introducing a theological MacGuffin to complicate matters.
5(15.6%)

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From:jennythen
Date:August 17th, 2007 05:06 pm (UTC)
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I have NO CLUE what they're going to do. These books are about religion. They talk about The Authority. I won't spoil, but it gets even religerrific in the later books.

I'm really looking forward to the movie, but I don't know how they're going to explain the motivation for... anything at all.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:August 17th, 2007 05:21 pm (UTC)
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Hee. I know! Wikipedia says religion will appear "euphemistically," but, er, Dust? How do you get around that "euphemistically"? It's pretty explicit.

I know the other books get even more religerrific (hee!). I want to go and get them now to read! I don't know what The Authority is, but the Comic-Con preview seems to spin the Magisterium as sort of Evil Power-Hungry Dictators or something, so maybe their motivation is...being evil and power-hungry.

It was really cool to pick out scenes from the book in the trailer! Hell, they even show parts from the very end! And then there are random scenes I don't recognize at all that they clearly just made up.

It looks like Philip Pullman has a good deal of input (having hand-picked Nicole Kidman and all), so that's heartening, but I wonder how the dude feels about having, like, the entire point of his books stripped out for a mainstream movie audience. Besides rich. (Actually, a Wikipedia quote claims he likes the screenwriter for getting that the books are actually about Lyra's story, her search for a family, which...I don't particularly agree with. I mean, Lyra is fun and all, but I see her more as a vehicle for the story rather than a character whom the story is about. Maybe that changes in the later books.)
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From:daynr
Date:August 17th, 2007 05:51 pm (UTC)
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sorry, I was playing with your daemon but I didn't mean to comment on how youish it is!
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From:spectralbovine
Date:August 17th, 2007 05:56 pm (UTC)
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That's okay! You turned it from a spider into a bunny, so that's better.
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From:sophia_helix
Date:August 17th, 2007 07:35 pm (UTC)
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Oh, #1 with a bullet. Without the religious plot the whole series is just going to get turned into some kind of happy magical thing about the innocence of children. I just wonder, you know, what the third movie will be ABOUT, since they're effectively removing most of the plot.
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From:latropita
Date:August 17th, 2007 08:34 pm (UTC)
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*flails*

I always wanted a goose, like Serafina Pekkala (Eva Green <333). What is your dæmon's name, Hypatia?

The trailer mentions the prophesies of the witches and said heresy!! Maybe there is still hope?

Also, one of the trailers has a bit from THE FIGHT, which makes me all gleeful and shivery. Panserbjørn!!
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From:spectralbovine
Date:August 17th, 2007 08:44 pm (UTC)
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Yes, I saw THE FIGHT!! And I also saw bits of the very very end, which you wouldn't really recognize as the very very end if you didn't know the book.

What's weird about the prophecy is that Mrs. Coulter is all, "You think it's this child?" (Like she's Anakin fucking Skywalker or something.) And then she's all, "Then we must find her!" Which is so weird because, hello, you know? Maybe it's just out of context.
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From:gymble
Date:August 17th, 2007 10:06 pm (UTC)
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Oops. I think I turned your daemon into a lion again.

I have no idea how the movies will work without the religious undertones. I mean, sure there's still a story there, but there's no point.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:August 17th, 2007 10:16 pm (UTC)
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Hiiiiiiiiii, you! I was going to call you and see how you're doing. Keeping your head above water?
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From:cran
Date:August 18th, 2007 01:20 am (UTC)
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I'm not worried about the religion thing. I'd imagine it's not going to be explicit, but it'll be like Narnia -- you'll know what they're getting at. Even in the trailer they had one Magisterium guy hiss, "That is heresy," so, yeah, not too worried. Pullman's had a ton of input, and Chris Weitz absolutely loves the books and has promised he won't dumb anything down. I'm crossing my fingers, anyway, as these are some of my favorite books of all time and I've been waiting for the movies for years now.

You've seen the 5 minutes of footage, right? Pan is adorable.

Also, my daemon is a raccoon. I'm not letting anyone change it, because I think it fits. :P
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From:spectralbovine
Date:August 18th, 2007 01:25 am (UTC)
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Yeah, I saw the Comic-Con thing on the website!

Right now, I've got a bunny. I don't know that that fits. But I do love Watership Down.
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From:miniglik
Date:August 18th, 2007 07:21 pm (UTC)
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Lion? I see a mouse. Like, I'm not being metaphorical or anything -- it's a mouse named Hypatia.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:August 18th, 2007 07:44 pm (UTC)
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Exactly. It changes. That's the point. It will become fixed in 11 days.
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From:soleta_nf
Date:August 19th, 2007 01:33 am (UTC)
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AAAHHHHH. I love those books!

Eep! I changed your daemon. To a SPIDER. :S
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From:spectralbovine
Date:August 19th, 2007 01:39 am (UTC)
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Damn you!!

I'm halfway through the second book now! It's awesome!
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From:soleta_nf
Date:August 19th, 2007 02:01 am (UTC)
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Okay, dumb question. How did you get the proper code for the quiz to post to LJ? All I can see is blog code that doesn't work in LJ. I think this is why I didn't post it the last time I did the quiz earlier in the year. Thanks!
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From:spectralbovine
Date:August 19th, 2007 02:04 am (UTC)
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Er, I didn't do anything special. I just pasted in the blog code it gave me.
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From:hildawookie
Date:August 19th, 2007 04:22 am (UTC)
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Well I turned you back into a fox, but it's not terribly silver. More of an average fox color.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:August 19th, 2007 06:19 am (UTC)
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Yay! I think that's what it was. Just regular fox. Silver or not.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:August 20th, 2007 09:45 pm (UTC)
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I love his voice. "I have a contract with the child." They seem to have gotten his personality right. Fiercely loyal.

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