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11:55 pm - The Incredible Edible Mr. Muggles
Reason Number #435 Why I Love My Company: The Chief Medical Officer made a Borat reference during an employee meeting.

Very good episode tonight, lack of Claude throwing people off roofs and then punching them in the face notwithstanding.

The opening made me laugh because I never even thought of the blackmail angle, and that, apparently, was Meredith's motivation to begin with. So, Meredith sucks.

And then I laughed again when Ando FOUND HOPE AHAHAHA. Although I really didn't get the return to Hiro/Ando bickering. Those two are so on-again/off-again. Why won't they just listen to each other?

Hiro and Ando continued to be the weak link in the episode, however, for three straight weeks in a row. This is not good!! Get your fucking powers back, Hiro. Claire is wiping the floor with you. Sure, you did the classic buddy comedy move of hiding in a room service cart, and Ando awesomely threw your own words right back at you, but you didn't recognize an overly done sob story when you heard one? Okay, you didn't want to do it, sure, but not for the right reasons. And now you're both screwed. Seriously: GET YOUR FUCKING POWERS BACK.

Mohinder, you fool! You have no powers, but Zane Taylor was a punk-loving metalbender until, somehow, I don't know, Sylar tapped your fucking phone or something. And Sylar, criminy, he just gets creepier and creepier. I mean, there was no reason to wear Zane's Ramones shirt; it's not like Mohinder knew a flipping thing about Zane (and Zane apparently doesn't know a flipping thing about WHAT PEOPLE WHOSE LAST NAMES ARE SURESH LOOK LIKE). But Sylar got "in character." And melted a toaster. And swabbed a dead guy. And gaaah. And then he formed an unholy alliance! Dammit, Mohinder! In your defense, and I never thought I'd be defending you, you have no way of knowing that he's Sylar. Unless you recognized his voice from the voicemail or something. Except Sylar changed his voice subtly, like he does, so that he would sound like Zane's voicemail. What the hell kind of name is Zane, anyway? He sounds like he's in a Wheel of Fortune Before and After puzzle: "Pat, I'd like to solve the puzzle. Billy Zane Taylor."

This episode made Jessica and Matt interesting, which I know is a feat for some people. The latter, for all people, probably. Jessica taking control is great because it's fun to see Niki trapped in reflective surfaces; I love the conceit even if it doesn't really make any sense. It's a visual representation of her mental state, but there's no good reason why we see it the way we do. I really liked the scene in the stairway, for instance, where Niki is out of the mirror and giving Jessica angst the way she used to give her angst. It's like Baltar and Six all over again! And I love that Matt can hear Niki because of course it's all in their head! Oh man, Matt and Jessica need to have more scenes together. This is gold. Holy shit, dude, I'll bet Niki's going to figure out that Matt can hear her and try to reach out to him. But Matt's a renegade with stolen diamonds! Linderman is going to eat his ass. Wait, I guess Linderman did get his money back. Sorta. Anyway! This was Matt's best episode in a long long while. Now he can stay.

So, remember when I said that Meredith sucks? It turns out she sucks A LOT OMG. The lie about the money! I mean, Christ, woman! Have a little shame, dear Lord. You make Nathan look like a good person. At least he came down to see his daughter rather than just wire the money. Oh, okay, I thought their scene where they obviously had some shared history was cute. But I'm still waiting for Nathan to find out that the cheerleader Peter came to save was his damn daughter. I feel really bad for Claire because her mom sucks worse than her dad. He would have met her! He would have, really! Dammit, why does the pyrokinetic have to suck? I wanted to like her, and it's like she has some good motherly qualities but you can't even trust those because she's a lying liar who lies.

Oh no! Return of the Mohinder voiceover! And holy crap, Claire's mom got wiped one too many times. Her brain has turned to MUSH. And Jessica's next target is Nathan! Linderman totally freed Jessica just so she could be his hitman. Except she's going to be hard to control after a while, and, what the hell, why does he want to kill Nathan now? WHO IS LINDERMAN? WHAT IS HIS MASTER PLAN? These questions, and more, will not be answered next week.

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From:glasseseater
Date:February 13th, 2007 08:19 am (UTC)
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From:spectralbovine
Date:February 13th, 2007 08:24 am (UTC)
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Hee! Thank you!
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From:upanashad
Date:February 13th, 2007 09:21 am (UTC)
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LJ ate part of my comment. I'm trying again and then taking it as a sign I should go to sleep:

The Chief Medical Officer made a Borat reference during an employee meeting.

Ha! What was it?

This episode made Jessica and Matt interesting, which I know is a feat for some people. The latter, for all people, probably.

Truly. I actually think it's Matt's wife that is the black hole of boredom, because his scenes away from her are usually pretty decent.

I particularly enjoyed your paragraph about Mohinder and Zane and Sylar.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:February 13th, 2007 09:27 am (UTC)
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Ha! What was it?
I forget exactly, but he said, "In the words of the great Borat, 'Not my [something]!'" I think he was basically doing the NOT! joke.

I actually think it's Matt's wife that is the black hole of boredom, because his scenes away from her are usually pretty decent.
Absolutely.

I particularly enjoyed your paragraph about Mohinder and Zane and Sylar.
Thank you! I don't know where that came from.
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From:cerulgalactus
Date:February 13th, 2007 12:54 pm (UTC)
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I said the same thing.
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From:cerulgalactus
Date:February 13th, 2007 12:53 pm (UTC)
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What an oh yes episode, especially the badassery gunfight, but it was just below a HOLY FUCK. I agree about the weakness of Hiro and Ando and the wanting Hiro to get his goddamn power back and the creepy of Sylar and the interestingness of Matt and Jessica and the boo on Meredith. OK, I'm done.
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From:orangesky33
Date:February 13th, 2007 12:57 pm (UTC)
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What the hell kind of name is Zane, anyway? He sounds like he's in a Wheel of Fortune Before and After puzzle: "Pat, I'd like to solve the puzzle. Billy Zane Taylor."

Ha! Poor Zane.

I pretty much agree with everything you said. MATT!
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From:vaspider
Date:February 13th, 2007 04:51 pm (UTC)
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Zane is one of those American names that is both a surname-turned-first name and considered the "American" form of John, much as Ian and Sean and Shawn and Jan (Polish, pronounced Yahn) are all forms of John.

I know this because it is one of the forms of John we considered when naming my son after his grandfathers; they're both named John, as are fourteen squillion other people in my family.
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From:eldritch_flame
Date:February 13th, 2007 01:27 pm (UTC)
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My problem with Matt has always been that his storyline was so removed from that of the rest of the Heroes'. It was like SUPERS ARE BANDING TOGETHER TO STOP A BOMB ps Matt's psychic and his wife sucks. And there were a few times, like when he was questioning Peter, where I got excited that maybe Matt was going to join up with the main storyline, but it never happened. So, yes, I was quite glad that he got to interact with another Hero (although I suppose that term only applies to Jessica in the loosest sense) for most of an episode. And I'm glad his power actually gave him an advantage, as I've never thought of telepathy as a very active power.

Dammit, why does the pyrokinetic have to suck?

It does seem like more of a betrayal, doesn't it? She can make fire! She should be awesome! Or at least evil in a non-sucky way. I'm not saying pyros don't make good villains. They just don't make good trailer trash.

And I love that Sylar wore Zane's shirt. Oh, Sylar. You so crazy!
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From:spectralbovine
Date:February 13th, 2007 03:21 pm (UTC)
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She can make fire! She should be awesome!
I know! I mean, she just ruined all the goodwill she got when she made fire in the first place.

I'm not saying pyros don't make good villains.
Of course not! I mean, there's Pyro, for instance. And Mark Sheppard in "Fire."

Oh, Sylar. You so crazy!
Dude is one chord short of a punk band.
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From:harper47
Date:February 13th, 2007 01:38 pm (UTC)
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Okay let's try this again.

I thought the show was great last night. (Hee - nice comment re Baltar/Six and Matt/Niki).

I just hate the fact that Sylar's victims are so likeable. I adored Charlie the waitress and I liked Zane. And I thought the set guys did a great job with his apartment. Great freaky look. You know Mohinder - Jack would have got there in time. Kick it up a little.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:February 13th, 2007 03:24 pm (UTC)
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Aw, you're right about Sylar's victims! They're such nice dudes, and he just eats their brains.

And the apartment was totally freaky. I couldn't figure out what those strange puddles were. I thought he could shoot water out of his fingertips or something.

You know Mohinder - Jack would have got there in time.
Jack? You mean...Jack Coleman, who plays Mr. Bennet?
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From:thekateyouknow
Date:February 13th, 2007 01:47 pm (UTC)
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I love Sylar. Or, I love watching him, at least. The actor is good and he makes other people better. Like, that's the least wooden I think Mohinder has ever been in a scene.

I hope Jessica kills Matt's wife dead.
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From:jeeperstseepers
Date:February 13th, 2007 02:27 pm (UTC)
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(and Zane apparently doesn't know a flipping thing about WHAT PEOPLE WHOSE LAST NAMES ARE SURESH LOOK LIKE).

Yeah, I thought about that. I fanwanked it by deciding that Zane could have just decided that Sylar's only part Indian--he does have extremely dark hair and eyes and unusual, "ethnic" features. What I couldn't fanwank, though, was Sylar's lack of Mohinder accent (that's the only name for Mohinder's stupid accent).

What the hell kind of name is Zane, anyway? He sounds like he's in a Wheel of Fortune Before and After puzzle: "Pat, I'd like to solve the puzzle. Billy Zane Taylor."

Hee!

This episode made Jessica and Matt interesting, which I know is a feat for some people. The latter, for all people, probably.

Aw, come on, I can't be the only one who gets really happy whenever Matt gets a scene! He's one of the only characters I fully like, not just find interesting. And I do find him interesting. Maybe it's because I identify with him. Jessica/Nikki, on the other hand? This episode is the first where I wasn't bored to tears from her...probably because it was MATT she was a danger to.

Sylar wore the Ramones shirt because he looked HOT in it. Man, he was so good, the way he had the sleeves pulled down "nervously" over his hands. Zachary Quinto is excellent.

Claude was missed, but it was still a fun episode.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:February 13th, 2007 03:26 pm (UTC)
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Aw, come on, I can't be the only one who gets really happy whenever Matt gets a scene!
Yes, you're the only one, Tseeps. I asked around.

Sylar wore the Ramones shirt because he looked HOT in it. Man, he was so good, the way he had the sleeves pulled down "nervously" over his hands. Zachary Quinto is excellent.
Hee.

Love the icon.
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From:eponis
Date:February 13th, 2007 02:48 pm (UTC)
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Yes on everything. ESPECIALLY THE LACK OF VISTA SPONSORSHIP OMG. I am sooo tempted to make a comparison between Vista and Mrs. Bennet. But anyway.

But I'm still waiting for Nathan to find out that the cheerleader Peter came to save was his damn daughter.

Okay, so I'm apparently going to have to rewatch the episode, but I apparently got a different impression here than everyone on my flist. As I recall, my impression was "okay, he doesn't want to look because then he'd have to confront it and know; okay, he's looking, memorizing what she looks like; holy cow, he recognizes her, but he's trying to hide it from Meredith because he doesn't know she has superpowers, but he can't look away!" 'Cause, I mean, even if he never saw Claire face-to-face (which I believe was the case), he's seen at least a few paintings of The Cheerleader, didn't he? And he's got to be wondering.

and Zane apparently doesn't know a flipping thing about WHAT PEOPLE WHOSE LAST NAMES ARE SURESH LOOK LIKE

Sriously. But then, he did look surprised for a minute, and maybe he thought "hunh, the answering machine message sounded fuzzy; I guess I misheard his name."? Or maybe I'm just being charitable, of course.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:February 13th, 2007 03:27 pm (UTC)
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I really couldn't tell if he recognized Claire at all, and I thought they would have made it more obvious if he did.
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From:gymble
Date:February 13th, 2007 03:34 pm (UTC)
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Hiro and Ando continued to be the weak link in the episode, however, for three straight weeks in a row.
I KNOW. Sigh. It turns out that wacky hijinks without time-stopping and teleporting abilities are not that fun. Who knew?

Zane apparently doesn't know a flipping thing about WHAT PEOPLE WHOSE LAST NAMES ARE SURESH LOOK LIKE
That's what I was thinking. But I guess it would be a little rude to announce to the person coming to help you that you expected them to be a different race. I mean, who expects a serial killer to show up in their place?

This episode made Jessica and Matt interesting, which I know is a feat for some people.
I like them better than most, but this was definitely the best arc for both of them in a while.

You make Nathan look like a good person.
Really! I no longer blame Nathan for abandoning her. I couldn't decide whether Nathan recognized Claire or not. Now I'm going to have to go back and re-watch.

And holy crap, Claire's mom got wiped one too many times. Her brain has turned to MUSH.
Way to go, HRG. I nope he feels really, really guilty. As much as I dislike Claire's mother, I felt horrible when she didn't recognize her dog.

In conclusion, this show is awesome.
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From:jenelope
Date:February 13th, 2007 03:39 pm (UTC)
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My fanwank for the Zane not knowing what a Suresh would look like is that he was both scared nearly mindless by his power and hopeful that someone was there to rescue him. Also, I think he was probably named after Zane Grey (who was named after his ancestor, the founder of Zanesville, OH).

I wish Hope hadn't turned out to be such a manipulative bitch, because I love Missi Pyle.
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From:warden96
Date:February 13th, 2007 03:44 pm (UTC)
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(and Zane apparently doesn't know a flipping thing about WHAT PEOPLE WHOSE LAST NAMES ARE SURESH LOOK LIKE).

So he couldn't have been adopted by an Indian family?
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From:daynr
Date:February 13th, 2007 03:51 pm (UTC)
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I still love pyromom even if she is selfish and sort of sucks. I'm beginning to think she might have known Claire could survive the fire when she set it.

I'm going to have to disagree on the Matt/Niki/Jessica stuff though.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:February 13th, 2007 03:56 pm (UTC)
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I still love pyromom even if she is selfish and sort of sucks. I'm beginning to think she might have known Claire could survive the fire when she set it.
Oh man. That would be pretty cool.

Probably because she accidentally dropped her off the balcony one day and discovered she survived.
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From:etherealclarity
Date:February 13th, 2007 03:55 pm (UTC)
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I actually like Jessica/Niki and Matt a LOT but they've been given crappy plotlines. So yeah, last night's ep was way awesome in that respect. Finally something good! I really want to see the two of them interact more so Matt can talk to Niki. I keep wondering how the whole Jessica/Niki thing is going to get resolved. And the fact that the tattoo shows up only for Jessica makes me think there is more to this than simply some form of MPD.

And I'm sad that Hiro hasn't gotten his powers back yet. GET YOUR POWERS BACK HIRO.

Hmm, maybe I'm the only one who doesn't hate Meredith. Okay yeah, she lied about the AMOUNT of money (she seemed rather down on her luck, and while that's no excuse, I still get it), but other than that she seemed pretty up front with both Claire and Nathan about the entire situation. Nathan flew down but when Meredith gave him a chance to bring Claire in, he shied away and dropped off the money and left. Seems like Meredith's a little lost and god knows why she's moving to Mexico, but she doesn't seem like a bad person by any means. I want to know who tried to kill her and Claire 15 years ago and how that plays into anything.
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From:unseenlibrarian
Date:February 13th, 2007 05:15 pm (UTC)
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The Tattoo thing reminds me of an old DC hero, Captain Triumph. (Which Loeb and Kring both very well might know about, especially Loeb.) Basically: There were twins, Michael and Lance Gallant. Michael died in WWII, but his ghost hung around, and could merge with Lance thanks to a -mysterious birthmark-, becoming a combined being with super-strength and Michael's personality, that called himself Captain Triumph.

Later depictions of the Captain suggest Michael eventually goes psychotic...
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From:eirefaerie
Date:February 13th, 2007 04:27 pm (UTC)
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I haven't watched Heroes yet, but I just KNEW FireMomma was up to no good! Because she was a SMOKER.
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From:sistakaren
Date:February 13th, 2007 04:48 pm (UTC)
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Hahahaha! Rock.
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From:sistakaren
Date:February 13th, 2007 04:55 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, I really liked tonight's episode. I may make a post about it, but this is the first episode wherein I feel like Heroes is starting to make strides towards being a truly great show. I got very emotional during some scenes with Nathan and with Claire. They are two of the best actors on the show, so I'm excited about them getting together. I finally get why Nathan's power is oh so appropriate, but I'll probably make my own post about that, because there's a lot to say.

I actually really liked Hiro and Ando this week. I missed their wacky adventures. This one may not end well, it seems...

Unlike you, I'm still not convinced that there's any proof that Jessica is just another identity of Niki. Call me wacky, but I think there's gonna be some dramatic scene towards the end of the season when they'll be in two different bodies. I dunno why I think that...

I think this is Matt's best episode ever.

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You make Nathan look like a good person.

Dude, Nathan is a good person. I always said that he was just as emo as Peter, but he masks his emo in a cloak of assholetry. He's such a great and interesting character.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:February 13th, 2007 05:09 pm (UTC)
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I may make a post about it, but this is the first episode wherein I feel like Heroes is starting to make strides towards being a truly great show.
Damn, that's high talk coming from you!

I finally get why Nathan's power is oh so appropriate, but I'll probably make my own post about that, because there's a lot to say.
Oh really? Because he's always "flying away" from his problems? I'm interested to hear your take.

Unlike you, I'm still not convinced that there's any proof that Jessica is just another identity of Niki. Call me wacky, but I think there's gonna be some dramatic scene towards the end of the season when they'll be in two different bodies. I dunno why I think that...
The fact that the Magical Symbol of Swirly Doom only shows up on Jessica is BIZARRE and does point to some sort of "two separate entities" idea, but my point remains that Niki is not actually trapped in a mirror, you know? Unless she is. But that's not genetically possible. Come on.

I think this is Matt's best episode ever.
I was going to say that, but I wasn't sure because he had some good stuff with Audrey and Sylar early in the season. But I wouldn't argue with you.

I always said that he was just as emo as Peter, but he masks his emo in a cloak of assholetry.
Well, his mom knows he's a big sap.
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From:vaspider
Date:February 13th, 2007 05:09 pm (UTC)
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Although I really didn't get the return to Hiro/Ando bickering. Those two are so on-again/off-again. Why won't they just listen to each other?

Because they're acting like real people do? I don't really have a problem with the way Hiro and Ando interact -- they behave like real friends, with real conceits, and they often listen to each other selectively or don't listen to each other at all.

Seriously: GET YOUR FUCKING POWERS BACK.

There had better be a good reason for that to have dragged on so long.

And Sylar, criminy, he just gets creepier and creepier.

Want to hear something really creepy that someone pointed out to me and I was glad I wasn't the only person who saw it? Peter's been in direct contact with Sylar and Eden. So when are we going to (hopefully) see all of those wacky powers come out? I am so gunning for the idea that Peter gets pissed and wants something from someone and OMG SUDDENLY HE HAS THE VOICE AND HE HAD NO IDEA HE COULD EVEN DO THAT OMG.

That would basically rule.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:February 13th, 2007 05:17 pm (UTC)
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I don't really have a problem with the way Hiro and Ando interact -- they behave like real friends, with real conceits, and they often listen to each other selectively or don't listen to each other at all.
Yeah, I can see that, but it sometimes get annoying to watch because it's like, "Come on! Didn't you guys have this same argument three episodes ago??"

There had better be a good reason for that to have dragged on so long.
It just sort of came out of nowhere after Hiro failed to save Charlie. And he was able to SLOW time, so it's not like he's actually lost his powers. But he's got some sort of mental block. I think Claude needs to throw him off a fucking building. That'll snap him out of it.

Peter's been in direct contact with Sylar and Eden. So when are we going to (hopefully) see all of those wacky powers come out? I am so gunning for the idea that Peter gets pissed and wants something from someone and OMG SUDDENLY HE HAS THE VOICE AND HE HAD NO IDEA HE COULD EVEN DO THAT OMG.
Ooooooh.
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From:vaspider
Date:February 13th, 2007 05:15 pm (UTC)
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And holy crap, Claire's mom got wiped one too many times. Her brain has turned to MUSH.

Yes, because no one saw that coming. Frankly, my reaction to that was, "Well, it's about time, she was already an idiot from the mindwipes."
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From:maidofawesome
Date:February 13th, 2007 08:53 pm (UTC)
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Oh, poor Claire's mom! Poor Claire! It made me really sad, because as the recaplet described it on twop, it's very similar to alzheimers, and having seen alzheimers closehand any depiction of it makes me upset. ILU CLAIRE!

So sick of the Hiro/Ando plot already, and Hiro was my favourite character. They've dragged it on too long. I would have rather had no Hiro/Ando since we saw them at the museum, and then jumped straight into them on their way to Linderman. Of course, then we would have all complained that there was this big jump between moments. But screw it.

When Mohinder showed up and Sylar was there, I instinctively went 'Oh nooo! Mohinder!' and then realised who it was, and went 'Oh! Yay! Mohinder's going to get killed!' and then he didn't get killed AT ALL. And I was very upset. Poor Zane. It was worse that he was a loser. Poor, loserish, deaddead Zane.

I did like Matt more this episode, but I also kind of wanted him to be dead when he fell out the window.

I felt bad for Nathan. He just wanted to see his daughter! I wish he'd seen Claire.

ILU HEROES!
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From:sabra_n
Date:February 13th, 2007 09:50 pm (UTC)
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Hm, was I the only one okay with the Hiro/Ando plot this week? I thought they were a tad tedious last week, and no, listening to them bicker in the hotel room this week wasn't the best, but it felt real. Hiro is still fixated on the comic book version of heroism- superpowers, saving the world, etc. And he doesn't get that being a hero is predicated on being a sweet guy and helping girls get their purses back. Even if those girls turn out to be evil.

-blue
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From:dlgood
Date:February 13th, 2007 10:27 pm (UTC)
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WHO IS LINDERMAN? WHAT IS HIS MASTER PLAN?


With a name like Linderman, he has to be a guy that makes and sells bagels.
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From:peri_peteia
Date:February 14th, 2007 01:16 am (UTC)
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and Zane apparently doesn't know a flipping thing about WHAT PEOPLE WHOSE LAST NAMES ARE SURESH LOOK LIKE

That was MY EXACT THOUGHT. I was omg CUTE LIKABLE ZANE DOES HE LOOK LIKE HIS NAME IS FUCKING MOHINDER SURESH?!

I had some issues with this episode! Which I will maybe post about later. I LIKED LAST WEEK'S BETTER.
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Date:February 14th, 2007 04:10 am (UTC)
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Ando FOUND HOPE AHAHAHA
And she was wearing a princess hat! She was a DAMSEL IN DISTRESS looking for a hero!!!

I was trying to figure out just what happened to the metal in Zane's apartment and how it stayed liquid. Was it all turned into mercury? If it was melted conventionally, shouldn't it be radiating crazy heat? Then I remembered I was watching a TV show about a Japanese man who can stop time, a flying congressman, and an adorable cheerleader who sometimes jumps off industrial equipment.
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From:tophatter2
Date:February 14th, 2007 04:12 am (UTC)
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That was me, by the way.

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