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01:12 am - Who Watches the Watchmaker?
"Now that's everything. No weapons. No friends. No hope. Take all that away, and what's left?"
"Me."

"My name is Zuko. Son of Ursa and Fire Lord Ozai, Prince of the Fire Nation, and heir to the throne!"

"Dreams are just that. They're dreams. They help get you through the day."

"So what are you saying, you want me to make your decisions for you?"
"I don't know, I can't decide."

Prison Break

Okay, that ending was SWEET. I love it. I thought Kellerman was kind of a doof throughout the first season, but he's become a really cool character. How great is it that he's only helping Michael and Linc to screw over the people who screwed him over? The plot and character relationships have become REALLY convoluted, such that I can't tell who's on what side and how many sides there even are. It's kind of fun. And who's the old guy that Kim reports to?

Am I to take it that the bizarrely dramatic scene with razor blades and the mirror was just her cutting off a piece of mirror to give herself a haircut? O...kay. Not much of a disguise there, Dr. Sara. You're still incredibly pretty. But I loved her phone message to Michael, because, really, he is the only person she can trust anymore, and she needs him. Aw.

Heroes

Why, look at this! It is my weekly SLAPPING OF THE HEROES PROMO GUY FOR MAKING SHIT UP AGAIN. We didn't learn how or why or any of that shit, fool. But let's go through what all we DID learn.

It was really weird to see the characters six months ago; things were quite different back then!

Eden was using her powers for criminal purposes, ha. Look at her Evil Long Hair! The Haitian Sensation can apparently dampen people's powers, maybe? He can...do something. We've seen him mindwipe people. What the fuck is his actual power??

Mr. Bennet didn't know Claire was special all her life, it seems. Or...maybe he did. It's still a little unclear; maybe he was acting for Papa Suresh's benefit. In any case, we know he only recently found out about Papa Suresh and sent Eden after him, again for the purposes of protecting his daughter. Is this fatherly love, or does he just not want anyone getting in the way of whatever plans he may have for her? He had to have known about Claire's powers beforehand; he and the OWI have been collecting Heroes for years. However they were finding them, he shouldn't have been surprised by Suresh's board. Maybe he thought of him as competition.

Claire is so cute. This is not new information, but I thought I'd mention it. Also, her healing powers matured over time, obviously, although we still have no idea why the powers began to manifest. Eden had clearly had her powers for a while to have racked up a record like that. Mr. Bennet gets Claire bears from around the world, hence the nickname "Clairebear." I still want to know Mr. Bennet's goddamn first name.

Matt's wife still loved Matt back in the day. And Matt can't read. Which is why he can't pass his detective exams. Yawn?

Oh, the fucked-up Petrellis. Rena Sofer is very pretty. Mrs. Petrelli was very supportive of Peter's new job initially, despite what we saw in the pilot. Mr. Petrelli, who is very likely to have had powers, was connected to Linderman somehow, and did we even know Nathan was a lawyer? Nathan is totally responsible for Heidi's Locke problem because he fucking FLEW OUT OF THE CAR WTF. I...am not sure I like that. Because I don't know what Nathan remembers. Because I love the moment at the end of the pilot when Nathan flies because it's the first time he's flown and he's completely baffled. But if this, instead, was the first time, and he tried to deny it for six months until it happened again to save his brother rather than save his own fucking skin, that moment plays differently. Almost like a rebirth. And Peter has prescient dreams. Hrm. And this is dad's death, that was actually a suicide, not a heart attack. All conveniently happening six months ago. Oh, narrative contrivances.

Hiro can't save Charlie because she was going to die no matter what. What the hell, guys?! I was sure he was going to save her, else why have him go back? I guess to teach him a lesson (and also to cover their asses, since if Hiro were able to save Charlie, the viewer would constantly be asking Hiro to go back and fix things). I wonder what the hell he was doing with his timeshifts back then, though. Because he seemed so scared to attempt teleporting again, and yet he was getting flowers and tickets to Japan and all sorts of things by doing the Hiro Brow Furrow. I had to assume he was just doing his old time-stopping trick, which he was pretty good at. I wonder why he got flung back to Japan six months later, though. And he said he took a bus to the diner, but did he manage to teleport to Texas properly? I'm not sure how well he can use his powers now.

Niki was an alcoholic? That's new. And D.L. was an ex-con before Jessica framed him? And Niki had a sister named Jessica that their dad killed or something? I did like that we got an explanation for Jessica: that she is just a split personality of Niki's borne out of trauma, someone created to take the pain so that Niki would be okay. I like that idea, especially because it makes it a lot more clear why Jessica turned out that way. The problem is, of course, that Jessica seems to realize that Niki's body has superstrength, whereas Niki is unaware. This makes no sense, so I am guessing that Niki may discover her powers on her own eventually. If she ever regains control of her body, that is. Split personalities are fun!

I feel like an idiot for not realizing Gabriel was Sylar until, you know, ten seconds before they told us. I was wondering why the hell we were focusing on this Clark Kent lookalike, and then they gave us this Brian Davis telekinetic fool, and as soon as I saw him, I realized, "...Uh, that's clearly not Sylar." (Ooooh shit, the Internet reminds me that the camera has been very interested in Sylar's WATCH, and now we fucking know why. He's a watchmaker. (Also, did you guys know there is, of course, a Heroes wiki that's already been updated with information from tonight's episode?)) So, oddly enough, Gabriel's power seems pretty similar to Micah's. And Rae is laughing over in Florida because Gabriel's ability to recognize when things are "broken" seems to apply to humans as well, BUT A) HE IS CRAZY and B) THAT DOES NOT MEAN MICAH WILL REARRANGE D.L.'S INSIDES TO SAVE HIM.

Why do the Sureshes all suck? You peg a guy as having a power, and he can fucking hear that your watch is TWO SECONDS BEHIND and now appears to have completed rebuilding a decades-old watch that he had been working on for SEVEN YEARS HENCE, and you have the idiotic gall to claim he may not be special? Way to stick by your theories, asshole. You really did create Sylar. It's all your fucking fault. And, what, you don't question that the dude steals the address of someone with telekinesis and then comes back the day WITH TELEKINESIS? What, do you think this was just some LATENT POWER of his? THE MAN EATS BRAINS, IDIOT. HE THINKS IT IS HIS EVOLUTIONARY IMPERATIVE FOR SOME REASON. No, I am honestly confused as to WHAT THE FUCK DR. SURESH THOUGHT when Gabriel comes back with telekinesis. Is he COOL with the brain-eating? I mean, does he fucking encourage it? How long do they interact before he realizes Gabriel's become Sylar and gone off the deep end? Because he labels the tape "Sylar," not "Gabriel Gray." Also, Sylar? SURESH HAD A PICTURE OF CLAIRE ON THE FUCKING WALL AND YOU STILL KILLED THE WRONG CHEERLEADER.

Overall, I thought the episode was a little slow, and I was a little worried that the cracks were finally starting to show, that the inevitable disappointment in a show that manages not to disappoint was soon to come. But I hope I'm wrong.

Studio 60

See, if Sorkin were a Jump, Little Children fan, he would have called this episode "B-13." The non-linear narrative was a little hard to follow, but I eventually got the hang of it, mostly. The Deal or No Deal monologue was genuinely clever and funny, and props to Howie Mandel, because I was actually confused initially as to whether it was part of the act or not.

I don't understand why Harriet cannot tell a joke. It's really not that hard. Honestly.

I liked the general plot of the episode, which centered around the difficulty of filming a live broadcast when half your cast is sick and real-life tragedy just made one of your sketches inconveniently tasteless. This is all the show needs to be about, okay? The Big Issues will tackle themselves. Don't go after them. Let them come to you.

Go Susanne!

Jordan MacDeere continues to fucking rock. I totally agree with her that the audience does not fucking care about her. Her personal life is not going to keep people from watching the network. Crappy shows are going to keep them from watching the network. Jack, though, is totally right too, in that, um, her bosses fucking care, and that's what matters at this point. Also, he called her JMac. Ha.

Hey, Jordan's pregnant! No one saw that coming, right?
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From:cerulgalactus
Date:November 28th, 2006 09:15 am (UTC)
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5 to 1, Simon is the father.
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From:rieness
Date:November 28th, 2006 09:52 am (UTC)
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HA! That's awesome. Most people are theorizing that he's gay, but I like your theory. It's fun.
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From:beardoggx
Date:November 28th, 2006 12:31 pm (UTC)
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My recap's on my LJ. Please read and respond.

SURESH HAD A PICTURE OF CLAIRE ON THE FUCKING WALL AND YOU STILL KILLED THE WRONG CHEERLEADER.

My guess here is that Eden was successful in getting Claire's name off the list, per Mr. Bennet's request, in addition to Jackie taking credit for Claire saving the truck driver in the pilot.

Hiro basically had his Peter Parker moment. He'll find another Marle(a reference to Chrono Trigger, which Hiro did in his blog last week).
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From:jeeperstseepers
Date:November 28th, 2006 12:36 pm (UTC)
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I suspected right away that Gabriel was Sylar and just assumed that we, the viewers, had already been told that what Sylar's real name was and that I'd just forgot it because I was stupid. Since I thought we knew he was Sylar the whole episode, the Reveal at the end was jarring for me. (Kind of the way I didn't start watching Buffy until a few episodes into the first season but I'd caught little bits of it and automatically assumed that Angel was a vampire, leading me to think "But...didn't we know that?" when it was revealed.)

Actually, I think a big part of why I immediately thought "uh oh, this guy is CRAZY...ooooh, he's Sylar?" is Thief of Time. He reminded me of Jeremy Clockson.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:November 28th, 2006 03:45 pm (UTC)
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Ooh. I love Thief of Time.
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From:cindywrites
Date:November 28th, 2006 12:38 pm (UTC)
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Eden was using her powers for criminal purposes, ha. Look at her Evil Long Hair! The Haitian Sensation can apparently dampen people's powers, maybe? He can...do something. We've seen him mindwipe people. What the fuck is his actual power??

I love your 'Haitian Sensation' but I think we should call him The Degausser, The Schlock Blocker, or The Neutralizer.
Matt's wife still loved Matt back in the day. And Matt can't read. Which is why he can't pass his detective exams. Yawn?

*respins* He can't read, but he can read minds.
Why do the Sureshes all suck? You peg a guy as having a power, and he can fucking hear that your watch is TWO SECONDS BEHIND and now appears to have completed rebuilding a decades-old watch that he had been working on for SEVEN YEARS HENCE, and you have the idiotic gall to claim he may not be special? Way to stick by your theories, asshole.

Are you being harder on them, because they're Indian? They don't suck any more than Nathan Petrelli, who can frakking fly, but treats his brother like a deluded embarrassment. When you learn you can fly without the aid of a flying-machine, IT SHOULD CHANGE YOU!

I fell asleep (from fatigue, not boredom) shortly after Sylar ate his first brain, or whatever, so I have nothing else to add, 'til I see the whole episode. I'm so over Studio 60. We're still recording it, but feh.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:November 28th, 2006 03:47 pm (UTC)
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*respins* He can't read, but he can read minds. </>
Ahahahaha I love you.

Are you being harder on them, because they're Indian?
Honestly, yes. I'm annoyed that the Indian characters suck so much.

They don't suck any more than Nathan Petrelli, who can frakking fly, but treats his brother like a deluded embarrassment. When you learn you can fly without the aid of a flying-machine, IT SHOULD CHANGE YOU!
Well, Nathan sucks too. I have said this before. Heh.
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From:harper47
Date:November 28th, 2006 12:56 pm (UTC)
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No - you're kidding. Jordan's pregnant?

I thought AP did a nice job last night. I really enjoyed her scene with Jack especially.

I was kind of disappointed in Heroes last night. I mean there were moments of awesomeness but they didn't really explain anything like we were led to expect. And I am so confused. Is Sylar eating brains or not? He's fixing them somehow or fixing himself but . . . . confusing.

Hmmm- who do you think is the Hero destined to die?
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From:jadelynx
Date:November 28th, 2006 01:07 pm (UTC)
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My husband and I are both sure the Hero destined to die is the guy whose name escapes me, but the one with the radiation. It seems a little early in the game for them to kill off one of the ones they've invested so much time in building a history for.

Though if this was a Joss Whedon thing, it'd be Hiro. :D
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From:jadelynx
Date:November 28th, 2006 01:03 pm (UTC)
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The Haitian Sensation can apparently dampen people's powers, maybe?

You didn't catch that from the fact that Matt was suddenly unable to hear people when the Haitian showed up at the bar way back?

Mr. Bennet didn't know Claire was special all her life, it seems. Or...maybe he did.

I think it was acting, to a degree. I mean, because of the fact that obviously her powers just really started to exhibit themselves, he probably didn't know what, but I'm sure he's been keeping tabs on her from day one to see what would happen. Papa Suresh may have just confirmed what Daddy already knew.

the OWI

Ha.

And Matt can't read. Which is why he can't pass his detective exams. Yawn?

You left out the part where apparently this is why his powers started to manifest. The stress of being "nothing more" than a traffic cop for 11 years, coupled with the fact that while he knows he's not stupid, he can't express that to other people because of a mix of stupid pride and the knowledge that most of his cop buddies really would be idiots about it.

I feel like an idiot for not realizing Gabriel was Sylar until, you know, ten seconds before they told us.

They spoiled it in the previews from last week, so I can't say for sure I'd have known right off. But I have to say that I was completely and totally creeped out the moment he said that Brian Davis was broken. AND after that moment, I shall never be able to watch CSI without associating it with Heroes. :D

Why do the Sureshes all suck?

Because they are brilliant professors who figure out amazing things about evolution and super powers. It's a bit much for the world to handle when they fall that far out of stereotype. They had to have something to keep the masses happy. :D

Seriously though, I honestly wasn't sure if the hearing the watch be two seconds off was a Power thing or just a Watchmaker thing. I've known guys that knew their thing so well that they almost seemed to have a sixth sense about it, so to me that could have been just a decoy to throw us off the fact that he NEVER had any real powers, just the ability to ... I dunno, find the part of the brain with the power and harness it somehow (eat it, perhaps?) Not having any real powers to begin with and Papa Suresh finding him on a fluke would make him an Ultimate Super Villain. Like Syndrome, only cooler and deadlier.

Also, Sylar? YOU STILL KILLED THE WRONG CHEERLEADER.

Dude. Cut the guy some slack. It's not easy to wander around eating people's brains, okay? Sheesh.

I think the only reason the show felt slow was because there was very little action. I don't think it was a "cracks" thing as much as a necessary evil to make sure the storyline was able to progress without confusion. It will be a disappointment if they continue to have a slow show next week on the "Last Episode Before The New Year!"
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From:spectralbovine
Date:November 28th, 2006 03:56 pm (UTC)
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You didn't catch that from the fact that Matt was suddenly unable to hear people when the Haitian showed up at the bar way back?
I thought it was just that he couldn't read his mi...dammit.

You left out the part where apparently this is why his powers started to manifest. The stress of being "nothing more" than a traffic cop for 11 years, coupled with the fact that while he knows he's not stupid, he can't express that to other people because of a mix of stupid pride and the knowledge that most of his cop buddies really would be idiots about it.
Hm. Good point.

But I have to say that I was completely and totally creeped out the moment he said that Brian Davis was broken.
But "IT'S AN EVOLUTIONARY IMPERATIVE!!!" was kind of cheesy, though. Hee. Though, so very comic-book-y.

It's not easy to wander around eating people's brains, okay? Sheesh.
I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS WITH NO— er, what? Who? What's going on?

I think the only reason the show felt slow was because there was very little action. I don't think it was a "cracks" thing as much as a necessary evil to make sure the storyline was able to progress without confusion.
Yeah, you're probably right.
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From:etherealclarity
Date:November 28th, 2006 01:45 pm (UTC)
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Overall, I thought the episode was a little slow, and I was a little worried that the cracks were finally starting to show
Hm. I really enjoyed the episode last night. I didn't find it particularly slow at all. I thought it was really cool seeing all the backstory.

Why do the Sureshes all suck?
I'm not really sure I see it. I don't think Sylar actually had a power to begin with... or if he did, it wasn't manifesting at all. The watch thing could just be obsessive skill. When he randomly showed up with a power later, probably Papa Suresh was so excited that his theories were right that he didn't stop to think through HOW Sylar might have suddenly gotten the power. After all, most people's first reactions aren't to assume serial brain-eating or whatever Sylar does.

Mr. Bennet didn't know Claire was special all her life, it seems. Or...maybe he did.
I think he did. It seemed like an act to me.

I keep wanting to call Sylar 'Adam' because that's the character he plays in the third season of 24. =P

Nathan is totally responsible for Heidi's Locke problem because he fucking FLEW OUT OF THE CAR WTF. I...am not sure I like that.
I'm pretty sure he didn't do it on PURPOSE. And... I think he honestly didn't remember this happened. He did FALL, after all. There was quite a bump on his head... even if he didn't block it out or assume it was a hallucination, it's possible that hitting his head made him literally forget.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:November 28th, 2006 03:59 pm (UTC)
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I'm pretty sure he didn't do it on PURPOSE.
Oh, so am I. It was a total subconscious thing, which makes it worse for Nathan. Because if he ever does remember, he'll realize that his first instinct in that situation was to save himself with no thought to his wife.
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From:sistakaren
Date:November 28th, 2006 03:08 pm (UTC)
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Because I love the moment at the end of the pilot when Nathan flies because it's the first time he's flown and he's completely baffled. But if this, instead, was the first time, and he tried to deny it for six months until it happened again to save his brother rather than save his own fucking skin, that moment plays differently. Almost like a rebirth.


Wait... you only love that moment because you thought it was his first time? I mean, I thought it was too, but then again I can see how that assumption could be wrong. That makes me feel bad for Nathan actually -- he didn't want to fly because of what happened to Heidi and here is his brother forcing him to do it. I think he just lied. That's why he was all prepared with the lie the next day instead of, you know, freaking out about the fact he could fly. It makes Nathan make a LOT more sense now. He has a pretty fucking good reason for acting like a dick about his powers. Even though I thought it made sense before. Also, I freakin' knew that Nathan isn't a natural asshole. It's how he deals with his emo shit. He really is just as emo as his brother, honestly. It's cute.

About Hiro-- I thought maybe he had a limited amount of time he could be in another time before he got yanked back? THen again that doesn't explain why he was in Japan...

I'm not sure that confirmed that Niki has a multiple personality disorder. I'm not convinced. What if it is really and truly Jessica? I think that'd be a lot more interesting.

I thought this episode was one of the best of the season, honestly. Then again, I'm one of the few who wasn't in love with last week's. Honestly, I thought it was sloppy with terrible dialogue. But this week's was much, much better.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:November 28th, 2006 04:05 pm (UTC)
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Wait... you only love that moment because you thought it was his first time? I mean, I thought it was too, but then again I can see how that assumption could be wrong.
I love the way Nathan can only respond, "I don't know. I don't know." And, yeah, I think that still works if he flew before. It's just jarring to rethink.

Also, I freakin' knew that Nathan isn't a natural asshole. It's how he deals with his emo shit. He really is just as emo as his brother, honestly. It's cute.
Heh. But you're right in that, if Nathan does remember flying, it makes his "No powers! Powers bad!!!" stance make more sense.

About Hiro-- I thought maybe he had a limited amount of time he could be in another time before he got yanked back?
Yeah, maybe. That seems like the best guess.

THen again that doesn't explain why he was in Japan...
Point of origin? It's what Hiro considers "home."

I'm not sure that confirmed that Niki has a multiple personality disorder. I'm not convinced. What if it is really and truly Jessica? I think that'd be a lot more interesting.
But Jessica was eleven! Jessica...doesn't act like she's eleven. Though she could have grown up with Niki. And what do you mean, it's really and truly Jessica? That she's possessed Niki? Because it's clear they share the body. We've seen it happen.
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From:alannaofdoom
Date:November 28th, 2006 03:44 pm (UTC)
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Prison Break: OK, I only saw half because I was watching HIMYM (which was awesome, but anyway) but the ending was FANTASTIC. And I didn't get the art-house-movie razor scene either. Especially since I don't think you can cut glass with a razor. But, you know, you could cut your hair with a razor. So... I don't know... maybe she was just freaking out and 'cutting' her reflection in the mirror?

Heroes: Wow, you really didn't pick up the Sylar thing? They totally gave that away in last week's previouslies. Man, Sunil. What's wrong with you?

Previously Guy was gone, though! Huzzah! Although... instead, we got 4 minutes of Cliche Theatre with Mohinder. The rest of the show is usually so good - I don't understand why the writers' thesaural powers fail so spectacularly when it comes to him.

I did like that we got an explanation for Jessica: that she is just a split personality of Niki's borne out of trauma, someone created to take the pain so that Niki would be okay.

LOVE IT SO MUCH. Yes, yes, yes! I loved that whole scene - Jessica saying "I took every punch" and stuffing the check into her father's mouth - awesome. AWESOME.

Overall, I thought the episode was a little slow

Me too. What up, Heroes?

S60: Wow, the show-within-the-show is actually starting to approach some level of funny. As much as I hate Howie Mandel and Deal or No Deal (which is, you know, a whole helluva lot), he was a great straight man in that bit. Although... did we need to see it twice, Sorkin? 'Cause it was funny, I'll grant you that, but it wasn't that funny.

I don't understand why Harriet cannot tell a joke.

Hee. "A man calls his mother after 38 years. ...Days!" Sarah Paulson totally sold that.

The non-linear narrative was a little hard to follow

I think Sorkin has taken a page out of last season's BSG "x hours earlier" playbook. I like it, though. I'd rather a show expect me to catch up than spoon-feed me a rote plot.

Five actors practicing spit-takes = COMEDY. GOLD. "Bitter? I hardly know 'er!" Hee! That totally made the episode, for me. Yes I am a simple, simple creature.

Go Susanne!

"Take $200 from petty cash..." Oh, boys, will you ever learn how much nice clothes actually cost? Heh. I like Susanne. I'm glad to see her getting more screen time.

Jordan MacDeere continues to fucking rock.

And Amanda Peet as well. I thought she was great in this ep. (And apparently only jackass reporters pick up on her dry humor. Heh.) Especially loved her in her last scene, hiding her tears from Danny. Such a great little moment there - "I'm totally crying, and you know it, but I'm going to turn away and compose myself a little and wipe away the tears, and then you're going to pretend you didn't see me do it." Aw. I just wanted to give her a hug.

Hey, Jordan's pregnant! No one saw that coming, right?

Man, Sorkin made us wait for that one.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:November 28th, 2006 04:11 pm (UTC)
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But, you know, you could cut your hair with a razor.
RIGHT?!

Previously Guy was gone, though! Huzzah! Although... instead, we got 4 minutes of Cliche Theatre with Mohinder.
So that was new? Because I couldn't forward past it this week, and I was surprised they had Mohinder doing his schtick instead of Lyingass Promo Guy.

LOVE IT SO MUCH. Yes, yes, yes! I loved that whole scene - Jessica saying "I took every punch"
Oh yeah. Great idea there. Probably has a lot of basis in actual split personalities. Or...at least the TV/movie version. Heh.

he was a great straight man in that bit.
He really was! Like I said, I actually thought he hadn't expected it.

Although... did we need to see it twice, Sorkin? 'Cause it was funny, I'll grant you that, but it wasn't that funny.
Yeah, that was odd.

(And apparently only jackass reporters pick up on her dry humor. Heh.)
Hee! I was impressed that the jackass reporter actually asked for the serious answer rather than taking her jokes and making it look like they were serious answers. Which is probably what he's going to do now.
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From:gymble
Date:November 28th, 2006 04:09 pm (UTC)
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Overall, I thought the episode was a little slow, and I was a little worried that the cracks were finally starting to show, that the inevitable disappointment in a show that manages not to disappoint was soon to come. But I hope I'm wrong.
As long as I still enjoy watching Heroes, I'm not going to worry about the plot holes. But clearly, they need a whopping dose of continuity fairy potion, because they're just a little loose with facts and dates and the like. I can ignore this as long as they still entertain me.

I really liked the introduction of Sylar, because they showed him with the classic signs of a sociopath - wanting to be special, thinking that other people are insignificant, etc. But he might never have actually killed anyone, with Dr. Suresh. Way to go, Dr. Suresh.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:November 28th, 2006 04:14 pm (UTC)
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Good job, Dr. Suresh!

I liked the introduction of Sylar, too.
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From:vaspider
Date:November 28th, 2006 04:15 pm (UTC)
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1) Chandra spent all of episode 9 telling us how the brain controls everything. As dcb42 pointed out, if The Haitian can control/suppress brain function directly, if, in essence, he has powerful and invasive telepathic powers, that would give him the ability to do everything we've seen so far, from causing amnesia to making people fall asleep to suppressing people's powers.

2) I think Bennet was pretty obviously acting for Suresh's benefit. He knew at the very least that Claire's parents were "special." That would keep in with his "protecting Claire" motif. Also, one of his other traits that's been pretty self-evident has been a sort of situational blindness around Claire and a sort of arrogance when it comes to the OWI's capabilities. Taken in that light, the reaction of "I am not the only smart person in the world???" becomes a little more understandable.

3) You think maybe Mr. Petrelli killed himself because he found out about the deposition Peter was about to give? Or, more likely, given what we know about what Linderman and what his people have done so far to the Petrellis, that that suicide wasn't? Killed himself the morning of the deposition? Isn't that just a little too coincidental?

4) I think Nathan suppressed it. He is the Pharoah of all denial. We've watched him sail his big ol' senatorialroyal barge of My Life Is So Normal Don't Look Over There right on down denial since the pilot. Given that, it doesn't surprise me that he denied/suppressed memory of what happened that night. I mean, clearly that was some sort of psychotic episode brought on by his loss of control and being thrown out of the car!!!! What? My Life Is So Normal!

5) I think the idea is that free will is a thing we have going forward, not in hindsight, which is why despite the fact that Hiro went back in time, he couldn't change the fact that she died, or how. All he could manage was making himself sad. :(

(More in a bit.)
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From:spectralbovine
Date:November 28th, 2006 04:25 pm (UTC)
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if The Haitian can control/suppress brain function directly, if, in essence, he has powerful and invasive telepathic powers, that would give him the ability to do everything we've seen so far, from causing amnesia to making people fall asleep to suppressing people's powers.
Oh, very nice!!

Taken in that light, the reaction of "I am not the only smart person in the world???"
Hee hee hee. I love Mr. Bennet.

You think maybe Mr. Petrelli killed himself because he found out about the deposition Peter was about to give? Or, more likely, given what we know about what Linderman and what his people have done so far to the Petrellis, that that suicide wasn't? Killed himself the morning of the deposition? Isn't that just a little too coincidental?
Hm, I never really thought about it, but you're right. PRETTY coincidental, indeed.

I think the idea is that free will is a thing we have going forward, not in hindsight, which is why despite the fact that Hiro went back in time, he couldn't change the fact that she died, or how.
Yeah, that makes sense. Like I said, it's something they sort of HAVE to do in order to set the rules. Poor Hiro and Charlie, the sacrifice to the Gods of Narrative Coherence.
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From:kammgirl
Date:November 28th, 2006 04:31 pm (UTC)
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"Now that's everything. No weapons. No friends. No hope. Take all that away, and what's left?"
"Me."



That is a Buffy quote right?
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From:spectralbovine
Date:November 28th, 2006 04:47 pm (UTC)
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Yep.
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From:kissyboots13
Date:November 28th, 2006 05:35 pm (UTC)
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Any significance to using one of the most bad-ass Buffy quotes of all time?
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From:spectralbovine
Date:November 28th, 2006 05:42 pm (UTC)
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Oh, it came up in the VM4 today, and it's totally bad-ass.
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From:afrocurl
Date:November 28th, 2006 06:03 pm (UTC)
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I agree that it took a few minutes to figure out the narrative structure for S60, but I didn't mind that at all.

I'm assuming everyone was supposed to take all those pregnant jokes from Matt as a sign that it was important, but I already knew she was pregnant in real life.

Is it sad that I like the dower guy that Matt brought in?
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From:spectralbovine
Date:November 28th, 2006 06:23 pm (UTC)
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Heh, well, he seems to be sticking around for a bit, so you're in luck!
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From:raelee
Date:November 28th, 2006 07:01 pm (UTC)
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But I loved her phone message to Michael, because, really, he is the only person she can trust anymore, and she needs him. Aw.

Aw, indeed. Now if Michael can just find her and Sucre can find them... they can all be a family again. ;)

And Rae is laughing over in Florida because Gabriel's ability to recognize when things are "broken" seems to apply to humans as well, BUT A) HE IS CRAZY and B) THAT DOES NOT MEAN MICAH WILL REARRANGE D.L.'S INSIDES TO SAVE HIM.

WHATEVER! If I'm right and Micah saves DL, my sister will be delivering a CROW sandwich and has instructions not to leave until you eat it!!!! (Don't worry, she'll bring you a drumstick for dessert.)

Overall, I thought the episode was a little slow, and I was a little worried that the cracks were finally starting to show, that the inevitable disappointment in a show that manages not to disappoint was soon to come. But I hope I'm wrong.

I hope so too because next week has potential to be AWESOME.

Because I love the moment at the end of the pilot when Nathan flies because it's the first time he's flown and he's completely baffled.

I thought he admitted later that he had flown at least once before? Man I need to rewatch these episodes but I don't have them saved. Damn me for not realizing how much I was going to love this show!!

I agree about the Surresh stuff but those things seem kind of big as mistakes go so I have to wonder if there's more to the story.

Oh, also, I continue to think that Peter's dreams are connected to someone around him. I know I'm going to be wrong about that eventually but nothing else seems to make sense unless he has multiple powers. (Have his dreams only been about his brother? No, right?)

Hey, Jordan's pregnant! No one saw that coming, right?

I actually didn't... I dunno why, though, since I do know that Amanda is pregnant.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:November 28th, 2006 07:40 pm (UTC)
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Now if Michael can just find her and Sucre can find them... they can all be a family again. ;)
Hee.

If I'm right and Micah saves DL, my sister will be delivering a CROW sandwich and has instructions not to leave until you eat it!!!!
WHATEVER. She won't be able to get in.

Man I need to rewatch these episodes but I don't have them saved.
Yeah, I've been thinking I need to archive so I can check up on past clues in episodes.

(Have his dreams only been about his brother? No, right?)
No, he also dreamed about Simone's dad.

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