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February 17th, 2006


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11:54 pm - What Is with This Show and Its Obsession with Oxygen?
I always feel like I should have some sort of text here before the cut.

Well, that wasn't too bad, but man, has the second half of this season been uneven as all hell (and barely resembling the first half of the season, which I loved).

First of all: Lee/Dualla is SO ANNOYING AND I CANNOT TAKE IT MUCH LONGER. Thanks for skipping an entire month of their fictional relationship and skipping right to the part where they're lovingly frakking in secret and talking to each other naked and being all schmoopy and WHO ARE THESE FUCKING PEOPLE? How did this happen? Why did this happen? STOP HAPPENING. I don't want to spoil Farscape for the people still going through it at the moment (because it's totally the in thing to do), but that one relationship that comes out of nowhere and remains important throughout most of the series? Still makes more sense than this.

Oh wait, I forgot the previouslies. It's so cute when they put scenes in the previouslies we never saw in the first place. Gina told Baltar to run for president? That's news! Adama assigned an engineer to command Pegasus? Oh, THANKS FOR TELLING US.

Cally!! Chief!! It's good to see you guys again, even if you're only helping start the B plot.

I really have no idea what the situation on Pegasus is supposed to be, and what Apollo's and Starbuck's relations are to the ship, and what they're both supposed to be doing there. Except getting pissy with each other for no apparent reason. I'm not even certain, does Apollo know it was Starbuck who shot him? Did he see?

Cool scene where Starbuck deciphers the garbled transmission. She was like Veronica Mars, with the acumen and the jumping to conclusions! Who was that other female officer with her, though? She's kind of hot; we should see her again. And speaking of hot, where the hell is Seelix?!

Um, I feel like not a lot happened in this episode.

Garner, you stupid fuck. It was pretty frakking awesome when those Basestars jumped in and proceeded to immediately blow the shit out of them. I love those wacky Cylons.

I don't even understand how Garner died or what he was trying to fix and how he was trying to fix it and how it related to the FTL drive and why does everyone die of oxygen deprivation? But it gave Apollo a chance to show his chops in the CIC.

I don't know whether they showed Starbuck and the Vipers upside down to be cool and artistic or whether some idiot flipped the footage. The latter will be confirmed if in a later episode Baltar is standing on the ceiling.

Hi, Gaeta! Here are your three seconds and one line. Bye, Gaeta! Got to fulfill that contract somehow!

The only reason Apollo magically got promoted to Major in the Month That Never Was was so that he could rise to Commander here. And it's easy to cry nepotism, but he did prove himself in the heat of battle, and apparently, there's, like, no one else on the ship who can command Pegasus. This is what happens when you kill Cain. You're left to clean up her mess.

I liked that last Lee/Kara scene. It's nice when they get stuff off their chests and hug away their pain. It's like they're two lost souls connected by spiritual twine.

Right, so the B plot. Abortion rights, woo! I really don't know how much of an impact criminalizing abortion would have without knowing how common abortion is among the fleet. Because, yes, I agree that repopulation is kind of important, and you shouldn't be killing babies when Cylons are wiping out adults all the time. But, yes, I agree that that's a legal right in the Colonies and thus should remain so. And the issue is really clouded when you're in the middle of an election and you don't want to lose an entire legion of potential voters.

Can a vice president run against the president in an election? How the hell does that even work? Because wouldn't he be on both tickets?

I must say, however, that I love Baltar. I mean, I've said it time and time again; he's one of my favorite characters. But man: counseling Roslin one way and then publicly denouncing his own private counsel ahahahaha. He's been upgraded from Bastard to Magnificent Bastard. (Also: whee, Playa, the pretty reporter Baltar totally frakked in a bathroom stall!) Baltar and Lionel Luthor should be pals.

And there was Six with a slow clap, and Adama wasn't even around to appreciate it.
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From:peri_peteia
Date:February 18th, 2006 04:57 am (UTC)
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Lee/Dualla is SO ANNOYING AND I CANNOT TAKE IT MUCH LONGER. Thanks for skipping an entire month of their fictional relationship and skipping right to the part where they're lovingly frakking in secret and talking to each other naked and being all schmoopy and WHO ARE THESE FUCKING PEOPLE? How did this happen? Why did this happen? STOP HAPPENING.

HAHAHAHAHAHAH. So true.

Oh wait, I forgot the previouslies. It's so cute when they put scenes in the previouslies we never saw in the first place. Gina told Baltar to run for president? That's news! Adama assigned an engineer to command Pegasus? Oh, THANKS FOR TELLING US.

Dude, you know, I totally did not catch that, because since I never watched Black Market I was all MAYBE THAT HAPPENED IN BLACK MARKET?!

I liked that last Lee/Kara scene. It's nice when they get stuff off their chests and hug away their pain. It's like they're two lost souls connected by spiritual twine.

Awwww. Yes, it is lovely when they hug.

And that's all I got to say about this, because there wasn't much to say anything about!
From:vandalisimo
Date:February 18th, 2006 05:05 am (UTC)
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Well, I meant to mention this last week, but BSG has found a way to turn me into an Apollo/Starbuck shipper by throwing this ridiculous Apollo/Dee "relationship" at me. I'm in shock. I think I might be shipping a pairing. This feeling is so...unusual. I'm frightened.

But, seriously, Dee/Apollo is so lame and absurd and I totally could have gone for it when they were hinting around at it in the beginning of the season. I was even like, yeah, bring it on! But, man, what a fuck up. I mean, who knew that doing situps together could make you fall in luuuuurve? And she's so desperate and clingy, I can't take it. Not so much in this episode, but in the last one and the one before. When she confronted him a few episodes and was all "what are we doing? what are we?" and he was all, "lady, we're just working out" and I was all, "PSYCHO." God. Anyway, that scene with Lee and Kara at the end was awesome. Awesome. And, yeah I think they were being weird in the beginning because she shot him and feels bad but can't express herself and he knows she shot him and she should freaking apologize but he can't express himself either. And also he won't support her and he's pissed that she expects him to without question and on and on. Sigh. She's looking prettier to me lately.

I totally wondered who the supermodel pilot was tonight. And I TOTALLY thought of Adama during Six's slow clap. And, yes, they are obsessed with oxygen. I'm starting to freak out that soon I'll run out of oxygen! Like, at any moment!

And, lastly, being commander of the Pegasus is like a death sentence. Good thing that Lee almost dies every week, so he's used to it.
From:vandalisimo
Date:February 18th, 2006 05:12 am (UTC)
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Btw, I find Zarek sexy. Is that weird?
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From:warden96
Date:February 18th, 2006 05:05 am (UTC)
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Who was that other female officer with her, though? She's kind of hot; we should see her again.

You might. She's the new Pegasus CAG.

I don't even understand how Garner died

Asphyxiation.

or what he was trying to fix and how he was trying to fix it and how it related to the FTL drive

The coolant system, manualing stabilzing the coolant pressure, engines need to be cooled or else they overheat. It's kind of like a big radiator.

why does everyone die of oxygen deprivation?

They're in space?

And it's easy to cry nepotism, but he did prove himself in the heat of battle,

Let's hope "others" can do the same.

I liked the action, hated Apollo/Dee and this was the first I had heard of it at all.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:February 18th, 2006 05:18 am (UTC)
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She's the new Pegasus CAG.

Really? When the hell did we learn this?

Asphyxiation.

Well, yeah, but what the hell happened down there? Why was there no air in that room? What was going on?

The coolant system, manualing stabilzing the coolant pressure, engines need to be cooled or else they overheat. It's kind of like a big radiator.

So that's the only reason the FTL drives were inoperational? Because the frakking coolant system was damaged?

hated Apollo/Dee and this was the first I had heard of it at all.

Heeee. Really? You didn't noticed them magically putting them together the last two or three episodes?
From:jenchiblu
Date:February 18th, 2006 05:09 am (UTC)
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Here through peri_peteia. This is as funny as it is true. And good point about the VP running in the election... shouldn't Baltar resign or something now? Ah well, I'm sure it'll all get taken care of in the month before the next episode. They can just tell us about it later.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:February 18th, 2006 05:15 am (UTC)
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Yes, exactly! What the hell is up with skipping a frakking MONTH between episodes these days?!
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From:missdeviant
Date:February 18th, 2006 05:23 am (UTC)
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One of the things I like best about mainlining a show to catch up (as I did with both VM and BSG) is that your weak episodes are ironed out in the greater season arc. A bad episode sort of becomes like, the forty-two boring minutes in a really awesome 8 hour miniseries, and you forgive it, because well, sometimes our world needs fillers.

Of course, on the other hand, this is also the situation where a poorly plotted season arc would falter badly. And because this is really only Week Three of Ann's Newest Obsession and Overall Sci Fi Renaissance, all those past episodes of awesomeness are even CLEARER in my mind, contrasting with these latest shortcomings.

I'm not one to make sweeping criticisms, especially because of the whole "week 3" issue, but when I watched from miniseries through Pegasus arc, I was riveted the entire time. I could barely wait for my next episode to download, ran to the video store, and speculated about what it must have been like for the poor bastards who had to wait MONTHS between "to be continueds"

But for the past four episodes, I've pretty much been all "Yeah. Whatever. When do Lee and Kara make out, again?"

In short, this is me saying: you are right.

Ah, what are you right about, you ask? Well, the whole g.d. month-skipping issue, for one. And the not-dealing with past events. And the "did I miss something" previouslies. And I am all, WHY DID I STUMBLE UPON THIS SHOW DURING ITS PERIOD OF SUCK?

Then I tell myself things like, "self, all great shows inevitably go through periods of suck. After all, do you not remember the end of Buffy season two, during which we got less than stellar episodes such as 'I Only Have Eyes for You','Killed By Death' and 'Go Fish' (which, okay, did feature Speedo!Xander and Cute Guy who would Eventually Be On Prison Break, but not much else)"

Which, roughly translated means: this is my new crack, and I am not giving it up just yet.

and: maybe you are just mad because we haven't seen Helo in weeks and WTF DID THE WORLD DO WITH HELO?

and: Next week DOES look kind of awesome.

Um. I think I just left a full-fledged post in your comments. Let's see if I can redeem myself by quoting you.

Um, I feel like not a lot happened in this episode.

Well. We got to see Starbuck doing sexy pushups. So that's - something.
From:jenchiblu
Date:February 18th, 2006 05:35 am (UTC)
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Those pushups were so sexy. I think every episode should have Starbuck doing pushups. Maybe Apollo should do some pushups too...

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From:alliterator
Date:February 18th, 2006 06:34 am (UTC)
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I, unfortunately, have not seen the episode. Because there is a jackass in my dorm who needed to watch four hours of That '70s Show.

I need my own TV.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:February 18th, 2006 06:37 am (UTC)
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Tell him to get cancer. Poetic justice!
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From:littlelesh
Date:February 18th, 2006 07:29 am (UTC)
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First of all: Lee/Dualla is SO ANNOYING AND I CANNOT TAKE IT MUCH LONGER. Thanks for skipping an entire month of their fictional relationship and skipping right to the part where they're lovingly frakking in secret and talking to each other naked and being all schmoopy and WHO ARE THESE FUCKING PEOPLE? How did this happen? Why did this happen? STOP HAPPENING.

Heh, I don't have a problem with this relationship per se, my problem is with how it's being executed, what with the huge gaps in time and everything. I think if we had seen more of the interim interactions between these two, I'd be more on board with this relationship, but oh well.

I liked that last Lee/Kara scene. It's nice when they get stuff off their chests and hug away their pain.

That scene was a big 'awwww!' moment for me, which promptly confused the person to whom I was speaking on the phone. :)

I must say, however, that I love Baltar. I mean, I've said it time and time again; he's one of my favorite characters. But man: counseling Roslin one way and then publicly denouncing his own private counsel ahahahaha. He's been upgraded from Bastard to Magnificent Bastard.

That was indeed awesome. I adore Baltar. (I also totally cheered when we first saw him in this episode, by the way, since it had been forever since we last saw him. [/dorkiness])

Can a vice president run against the president in an election? How the hell does that even work? Because wouldn't he be on both tickets?

Yeah, I'm guessing he'll be resigning, but now I'm wondering who both his running mate will be (Zarek, maybe? Could he be a conceivable choice for VP? I don't know. I should give up trying to predict things about the shows I watch since I never get anything right) and Roslin's since she now will no longer have one.
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From:the_partyman
Date:February 18th, 2006 08:58 am (UTC)
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Oh I am glad you mentioned the strange previously thing. I was wondering if I had gone insane. ISTR they did the same one time with an episode of Farscape (a scene in the "previouly" that had never actually aired).

I agree with your critiscism of the "skipping" with The LeeDee thing, but hey, I am just glad we are getting some Deeeeeee! goodness, cos she is teh cuteness.

What we got left now? Three more this Season? Arrrrrrrgh.

Meh. I have no BSG related icons. Must fix that.

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From:debetesse
Date:February 18th, 2006 05:11 pm (UTC)
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Can a vice president run against the president in an election? How the hell does that even work? Because wouldn't he be on both tickets?


Back in the day, the VP was the guy who got the second-most votes in the Presidential election, so you would often have Presidents and VPs of opposing parties. Jefferson, the sitting VP, ran against Adams, the sitting President, and defeated him. So, it's not unprecedented. But it would basically mean that there can't be "tickets" of Prez and VP, if they're trying to be consistent. Baltar as President and Roslin as VP would be an interesting turn of events.
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From:kiwikazoo
Date:February 18th, 2006 07:59 pm (UTC)
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That...didn't entirely suck, I guess. What's with the time jumping? Time crawled along so slowly back in season 1 that it's very disconcerting to be jumping weeks and months ahead like this. And it might not bother me, except that I have this sinking feeling that (a) they only did it so that they could have Lee in the plot and not stuck in Sickbay (remember Starbuck's knee injury? How it played out over several episodes, realistically? Like in real life when you don't just skip all the aftermath? Yeah, good times) and (b) they're doing it on a larger scale just so Boomer will be ready to pop riiiight around good ol' season finale time. I miss the writers flying by the seat of their pants. The show felt more organic and less like a mad dash to the finish line.

Also, the fact that they brought in a recognizable actor (whose name escapes me) to play the Pegasus CAG had me waiting the entire episode to see how they would decide to off him, similar to when they had Cain around. We were better off with someone like Fisk, who we didn't expect to get killed off.

Garner, you stupid fuck. It was pretty frakking awesome when those Basestars jumped in and proceeded to immediately blow the shit out of them. I love those wacky Cylons.

What bothered me was, didn't we just spend an entire episode under the premise that the Cylons won't launch full-scale attacks since they've lost the Resurrection Ship? So what gives? Stupid writers.

Can a vice president run against the president in an election? How the hell does that even work? Because wouldn't he be on both tickets?

No, he wouldn't -- Roslin will have to find a new running mate, I assume. You think she'd let him stay on the ticket after what he's just pulled? She only brought him in to save her own ass and keep Zarek out in the first place. And if looks could kill during Baltar's speech to the press...
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From:spectralbovine
Date:February 18th, 2006 08:15 pm (UTC)
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(remember Starbuck's knee injury? How it played out over several episodes, realistically? Like in real life when you don't just skip all the aftermath? Yeah, good times)

That was a long time ago. Refresh my memory.

What bothered me was, didn't we just spend an entire episode under the premise that the Cylons won't launch full-scale attacks since they've lost the Resurrection Ship? So what gives? Stupid writers.

Hm. Well, they did lure them into undefended space and nuke them immediately upon arrival. They might have lost a few Raiders, but they were all pretty safe on the Basestar, probably. I think the loss of the Resurrection Ship is what's keeping them from taking on the entire fleet.
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From:ace_and_sep
Date:February 20th, 2006 01:26 am (UTC)
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That abortion storyline was utter bullshit. Oh, grr. Yeah, sure, on the surface it was very slick and driven and moral-dilemma-y, but c'mon!

Thanks for the 5 seconds of research you did on that thing you previously thought was a fundamental freedom, Roslin! She's slipping -- as a school teacher she would've given a F- to a paper as sloppily researched as her decision. You want the fleet to have more babies? Perhaps you should consider a plan of positive reinforcement, rather than forced breeding? Schoolteachers should know about positive reinforcement.

Were we SUPPOSED to assume that very few women are getting pregnant and the ones that do conceive are ALL aborting? And therefore Roslin's removal of the right to chose what to do with their body SOLVED the birth rate problem? Well, why should we have to ASSUME that?! Why did Roslin seem to assume that?

If very few women are conceiving (leaving aside how many of them are terminating pregnancies) maybe it would've been best to ASK THE WOMEN why they don't want to be pregnant? Nobody even asked Cottle's charge why she was so adamant and traumatized. It was disgusting to see that character used as a catalyst and never given a voice.

And if Roslin had bothered to ask why people aren't having babies, maybe then she could have undertaken a plan of incentives to encourage having babies? I mean, I can imagine why people in the fleet aren't excited about adding to their families: quarters are cramped, resources are limited, the future is uncertain, Cylon death waits behind every asteroid. Maybe it was Roslin's responsibility to ASK WHY her people aren't reproducing, and help to encourage the willing ones to do so, rather than turn the women into BABY MACHINES.

To frame this plot as a simple decision between the two very clear choices of Negative Birthrate or Banning Abortion is fucking ridiculous. Either Roslin is a jackass, or the writers are. I'm not sure who'd I prefer to think badly of in this situation.

(Thank you for the space to post this rant, Polter Cow.)

--Ace
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From:spectralbovine
Date:February 20th, 2006 01:54 am (UTC)
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Heh. No problem. You have valid points.
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From:ste_noni
Date:February 22nd, 2006 09:23 pm (UTC)
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Oh wait, I forgot the previouslies. It's so cute when they put scenes in the previouslies we never saw in the first place. Gina told Baltar to run for president? That's news! Adama assigned an engineer to command Pegasus? Oh, THANKS FOR TELLING US.

We spent almost 10 minutes trying to figure out if we had missed an episode somehow. It's not a previously if it didn't happen pre.vi.ous.ly.

Also, I'm hating Lee/Dee. They need to stop that shit NOW.

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