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12:18 am - And I Can't Use Magic, Right?
Item the First: Couch Baron mentioned me in his recap!! I got a shout-out shout-out! And this, this right here is a shout-out shout-out shout-out!

Item the Second: Missed a pimping. sneaker328 wants you to rejoin her supercool Harry Potter board.

Item the Third: There was an episode.

Well. I have mixed feelings about this episode. I mean, it didn't suck, and it was good, but it felt weird to me, and I think it's actually because it felt too much like season one. Digging into the past, learning about Lianne...I mean, don't you have more pressing issues to deal with, Veronica? I did like that in the grand VM tradition, digging into one mystery uncovered a totally different mystery, complete with its own set of red herrings.

I'm still trying to sort through all of Veronica's erroneous assumptions. So the rumor Lianne was suspended for was true, and it was about Mary having an affair with Alan Moorehead. Oh my God, Trina should be Trina Moorehead ahahaha. Anyway. Meanwhile, there was this whole business about Celeste Kane being pregnant, and was any of that true and who the hell is Astrid?

Does Veronica still work at Java the Hut? We haven't seen here there in forever.

VAN CLEMMONS IS A TOTAL BADASS. Oh my God, I did not think he could be so awesome. First, with the "Gimme all your keys, bitch." And then with the "You think I'm going to give you information about what you were snooping around in? Bitch, please. Okay, here's some information about what you were snooping around in." Finally, with the "What? I didn't do anything. I surely didn't have this Principal placard all made up and ready." I don't even want to think about how nonsensical it all seems, though. That he's been keeping this giant secret about his superior all this time, waiting for the right time to strike. All a little too convenient, you might say.

Much like...a lot of pieces of the puzzle. I hope Rob knows what he's doing and doesn't end up with an unwieldy retcon on his hands because all of the filling in backstory here was so obviously stuff he hadn't thought of in season one. The Jake/Lianne/Celeste pregnancy scandal totally would have come up otherwise. And the rumor/suspension thing should have come up in her initial "Do you remember how my mom was prom queen?" investigations. And now what, was Lianne really popular and nice or was she a total rumor-spreading bee-yotch?

I liked Trina more in this ep than I ever have. I liked that she sincerely hugged her birth mother even though she was a custodian. I liked her combination of ditzy and bitchy. Hell, Willow never got to bitch out Cordelia like that! Charisma is so perfect as Kendall. That self-entitled bitchiness combined with complete confidence in her sex appeal.

Okay, Mac and Beaver were FLIRTING UP THE ASS. So cute. Also, I have no idea how sixteen-year-old Cassidy Casablancas thinks he can run a frickin' real estate company.

The dead rat! Finally! Except...it took Veronica this long to find it? And also, she has the nerve to be taken aback that Keith investigated something and DIDN'T TELL HER ABOUT IT?! OMG VERONICA YOU ARE A POT SIRED BY A KETTLE. ALSO MAYBE YOU ARE NOT THE RAT. FEEL MORE GUILT AT INCIDENTAL TIMES IF THE BUS CRASH WAS REALLY ALL ABOUT YOU. AND THEN TELL ME WHAT THE RAT MEANS SO I CAN STOP TALKING IN ALL CAPS.

Oh, I skipped over Logan and Weevil. Loved it. Logan's punch to the camera was just like Aaron's punch to the camera in "Leave It to Beaver." And the knockdown-dragout to "Walk Idiot Walk"? Great. Hector of the hyena laugh having murderous tendencies? Whatever. Right now, I'm sticking to the ridiculous theory that I espoused back in the days of "Driver Ed": Cervando killed Felix. I have no idea why, but it's such a Rob thing to do because he's already dead. There's no justice to be had. Just like the rape resolution.

And then...the kicker. Meg. Belly. Meg belly. I can't believe people were right about that. Rob Thomas and Co. seem to have completely reworked their idea of Meg's character over the summer. I hope there was some sort of catalyst or we see some revealing flashbacks because...WTF? The comatose girl's gotten more character development than Jackie, Gia, Hector, Thumper, and Bootsy combined.

Also, Meg did not just magically wake up when Veronica left. I definitely got the impression she's been awake. For how long, though. For how long.
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From:ladydisdain225
Date:December 1st, 2005 05:25 am (UTC)
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Go Thumper for murderer!

That is all. I haven't made up my mind about the retcon yet.
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From:amberlynne
Date:December 1st, 2005 05:32 am (UTC)
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Hee! You stole my subject line! ;)

I also felt a little weird at the end of episode. Maybe because I was expecting something more shocking to happen. I mean, Meg being pregnant was a bit of a surprise but I kind of figured it might be that because, wow, that would really mess up Veronica and Duncan and RT really is that evil. The Trina surprise was, er, interesting, I guess. I *love* that Van Clemmons is just as fucked up and sneaky as the rest of the town. But it was a bit of a stretch that so many thing fell in to place like they did.

I also have mad love for Mac and Cassidy. I might cry if they don't end up going to prom together and living happily ever after. I could not stop grinning. I am wondering if Cassidy is actually setting up Kendall for a fall. Her name is going to be all over everything. I am not sure what his motivation to do that would be but it crossed my mind.

Mostly, I am glad Logan and Weevil have settled their differences so they can start working together to figure things out. Starsky and Hutch, the Neptune remix!
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From:cindywrites
Date:December 1st, 2005 12:23 pm (UTC)
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I also have mad love for Mac and Cassidy. I might cry if they don't end up going to prom together and living happily ever after.
YES! That was like, New Improved Insta-Ship. Just add water!!!
I could not stop grinning. I am wondering if Cassidy is actually setting up Kendall for a fall. Her name is going to be all over everything. I am not sure what his motivation to do that would be but it crossed my mind.
Oh, interesting spec, amberlynne.


And I Can't Use Magic, Right?
P-C, if I didn't understand the way TV works (a little) and know how long ago this episode must have been written and shot, oh and if Rob Thomas knew (of) me from Adam, I would have taken that line as a total shout-out to my Buffy/VM entries. I'm just sayin'...
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From:amberlynne
Date:December 1st, 2005 04:10 pm (UTC)
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Oh, interesting spec, amberlynne.

Thank you! But the more I think about it, the more I think it will end up being Kendall that fucks *him* over because of that very thing. She is just bitchy enough to do it and poor Beav is a bit naive. But then Mac can get her bitch on and destroy Kendall with her mad computer skillz. Then they live happily ever after! But Cassidy could surprise me and have something up he sleeve. That would be neat.

I would have taken that line as a total shout-out to my Buffy/VM entries. I'm just sayin'...

Heh. See, I took that last line as a shout-out to my new obsession with all things Harry Potter. ;)
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From:soleta_nf
Date:December 4th, 2005 03:09 am (UTC)
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I totally took it as a Harry Potter shout-out, too.
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From:maidofawesome
Date:December 7th, 2005 04:40 pm (UTC)
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I thought it was a Sabrina shoutout. Because she's said that. And I'm geeky enough to admit that I used to watch it.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:December 1st, 2005 10:16 pm (UTC)
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How's that? Because of the Willow/magic thing?
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From:cindywrites
Date:December 1st, 2005 11:17 pm (UTC)
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Yeah. It just sounded like it could have come out of my Buffy-addled brain.
From:harriettheelf
Date:December 1st, 2005 06:14 am (UTC)
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But - but - WHAT DID YOU THINK OF THE ALT ENDING?!?!
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From:spectralbovine
Date:December 1st, 2005 06:55 am (UTC)
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Meg will not die!! It was creepy, but the whole framing Veronica thing is kind of meh.
From:harriettheelf
Date:December 1st, 2005 03:36 pm (UTC)
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Totally agree, although without the Meg-attraction thing - I just think framing Veronica is hella weak.
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From:blixie
Date:December 1st, 2005 06:19 am (UTC)
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That he's been keeping this giant secret about his superior all this time, waiting for the right time to strike.

I'm not sure we know how much time he's kept this under his hat or even how much he knew for sure, it's a huge stretch to assume he was keeping this guys secret. Lianne and Mary and Moorehead were the only ones who knew the real truth. I kind of loved that it was probably Veronica's barbed commentary on his lack of power thst lead him to sick her dogged talents on Moorehead. I think he just figured if there were any evidence of the dirt he susptected Veronica would be the one to sniff it out and he'd not look like he was undermining his boss in the process.

I love that Meg went all bad girl after Duncan ditched her, and it's a good thing too because only the good die young, so she quit that nice/good crap just in time to be saved from the bus crash.
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From:snoopypez
Date:December 1st, 2005 06:32 am (UTC)
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Hmmm. That may be why I prefered the alternate ending, because it actually shocked me, unlike the original ending. Which.. didn't shock because everyone had been assuming she was pregnant all this time. ;P
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From:petunia846
Date:December 1st, 2005 10:46 am (UTC)
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There's a person named Bootsy on this show? There was one on Gilmore Girls too. He smashed Luke's handprint in kindergarten.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:December 1st, 2005 01:15 pm (UTC)
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I knew I wouldn't be the only one to guess the song that played while Logan and Weevil were beating the shit out of each other. BTW, that song is WWE diva Christy Hemme's ring entrance music. The fight was cool.

Funny that Duncan wouldn't help Veronica with the fake baby, yet he may have a real one on the way.

Trina ruled. If Alyson Hannigan wasn't on How I Met Your Mother, I would have tried to make her a regular. If not, then the same amount of guest spots that "Captain" Charisma got.

Mac/Cassidy ruled. I still say that Tina Majorino should have been made a regular. If she's hanging with Cassidy, then I guess she'll be as close to a regular as we can get for now.

Meg pregnant? And SHE'S ALIVE! ALIVE! Woo-Hoo!
*starts jumping up and down like Kurt Angle*

Dangermousie told me that Meg was made of titanium. I said, yeah, she's MegaMeg! LOL If anybody's ever played the MegaMan games, they'll get that reference.

I think Meg has been awake for a while, at least. She looked a little pissed off there.

Since you didn't include the alternate ending in your review, I won't mention it here.

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From:debetesse
Date:December 1st, 2005 02:28 pm (UTC)
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Also, Meg did not just magically wake up when Veronica left. I definitely got the impression she's been awake. For how long, though. For how long.

Yes. Very yes. Me, too, on all of that. I would easily believe that the coma only lasted more or less until she got to the hospital (and get a pregnancy test). With a little work, you could convince me that the whole thing was a cover (that went wrong), but it would take work. I think the other interesting question is whether or not she knew at the time of the crash.

I liked Trina more in this ep than I ever have. I liked that she sincerely hugged her birth mother even though she was a custodian. I liked her combination of ditzy and bitchy. Hell, Willow never got to bitch out Cordelia like that! Charisma is so perfect as Kendall. That self-entitled bitchiness combined with complete confidence in her sex appeal.

Yeah. I was so pleased at the bitch-fest. At first it struck me as kinda stunt-ish, and then I realized, "No, that's totally these characters! Yay for making sense!"
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From:jenelope
Date:December 1st, 2005 03:57 pm (UTC)
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I thought the A-story was a little too pat in this one. But they finally made me like Alyson Hannigan's portrayal of Trina. Who knew that under all that bluster and self-promotion, Trina might just be an almost nice person? However, AH's Lily kicks Trina's ass. Guest spots are allowed, but she belongs with Jason Segel. I did love how natural AH and Charisma Carpenter seemed together. Ah, memories!

It's a little known fact that Astrid is Norwegian for "red herring."

Van Clemmons was fantastic in this episode, even if his hair was weird. Was he wearing a toupee or have I just not noticed the weirdness of his hair before? My theory on how this began: the janitor really did have a dolly accident, spilling the files. Clemmons just happened to be on hand and made a show of helping. One of the files he picked up was Lianne's and that jogged his memory of the event. I think he's probably been eyeing Moorehead's job for a while and this was just the thing. Perhaps he even suggested to Moorehead that they ask Trina to be the guest director to ensure she'd be in town.

I think what happened with the Lianne nice/beeyotch thing is that she told Debra that someone they knew was pregnant, then Debra started spreading it around the school without knowing which girl. Mary told Lianne not to identify her as the expectant mother, but by then everyone in school was trying to figure it out. In an effort to divert attention away from Mary, Lianne said it was Celeste. So she was nice in an effort to protect her friend's secret, but she was a beeyotch by sacrificing her rival's rep. I see no reason that Lianne can't be both. I love Veronica, but the nice/beeyotch thing is a family trait.

Mac and Beaver caused much "aww!"-ing in my home. They're so cute together! Except for the fact that I never imagined Mac dating a high school boy and I always imagined that for Cassidy, they'd be perfect. But now I have to revise my assumptions, because they're so cute and sparky and I want to see what comes next.

I think you're right that Cervando killed Felix. I'm a big fan of the wild, improbable theory, but this one sounds more likely than the ones I come up with.

Meg didn't wake up from her coma when Veronica was there, but I don't think she's as awake as she appears. She looked awfully confused when she woke up. I think her parents have convinced her doctors to keep her drugged and she was due for another dose.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:December 1st, 2005 10:18 pm (UTC)
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jenelope is smarter than me. Thanks for explaining the Lianne thing.

Also, I thought of some more "evidence" to support Cervando as the murderer. If I'm not mistaken, Thumper's flashback claimed Cervando wasn't even there. And since we know that flashback is inaccurate...

Also, we're introduced to Cervando as someone painted to be the biker with a heart of gold. GOLDEN MURDER, perhaps?
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From:_jems_
Date:December 1st, 2005 11:08 pm (UTC)
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Thumper's flashback claimed Cervando wasn't even there. And since we know that flashback is inaccurate...
Sticking my nose in... Thumper's flashback should be accurate up to the part where Felix sends everyone off to get Weevil and his bike home. Which includes getting Cervando from Texaco. It's only after they all leave that he's retelling a story he's been told.

Unless we're assuming that Thumper's in on it. Which I'm not. Because he seems to have taken over Felix's spot as Weevil's right-hand man.
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From:jenelope
Date:December 2nd, 2005 03:16 pm (UTC)
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I've noticed that Weevil's right hand men tend to not be all that bright, either. I don't think Thumper's in on it, either. He just doesn't seem sneaky enough to be lying to Weevil's face. I would bet that Thumper was on "get Weevil home" detail, and the other guy- Bootsy?- got Cervando from Texaco.

Whatever happened on that bridge, I can't wait to see the pieces fall together.
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From:_jems_
Date:December 2nd, 2005 04:07 pm (UTC)
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Well, Hector and Bootsy presumably told Thumper the same story about what happened on that bridge, but Bootsy couldn't have gone to get Cervando from Texaco if he was still on the bridge to tell the tale.

I can still see a scenario where Cervando came back from Texaco and did the deed, but it seems rather farfetched that he would be able to get back there without anyone stopping to see what was going on on that bridge.

One interesting sidenote: The Coronado bridge is apparently 40 minutes or so from where Neptune is most likely located. Which means that the gang didn't just happen upon Logan, they went out of their way to get to him. And if Cervando is at Texaco, then it's probably not the local hang-out in Neptune, but a local one. Unless they were going to drive for an hour and 20 minutes just to get him and retrieve Weevil's bike.
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From:jenelope
Date:December 2nd, 2005 04:53 pm (UTC)
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Maybe they were on their way to a Texaco on the other side of the bridge to meet Cervando when they ran into Logan. Nah, that probably doesn't work either.

My brain hurts from thinking of too many scenarios involving characters whose names I can't even keep straight. I blame spectralbovine for this.
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From:jenelope
Date:December 2nd, 2005 03:30 pm (UTC)
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I don't know if I explained it, so much as offered up a possible explanation. But if you want to labor under the false assumption that I'm smarter than you for a little while, you just go right ahead.

I'm of two minds when it comes to the Cervando/Felix mysteries. On the one hand, I think it's very possible that Cervando was trying to finance his way to college by getting into the drug trade and Felix got in the way. I like the idea of this seemingly angelic biker actually being a murderous fiend. But on the other hand, I think it's far more likely that his suppliers were the Fitzgeralds, he double-crossed them somehow, and they went after him on the bridge. Felix, being the guy who usually tries to interject himself into an argument, gets stabbed instead. Everyone leaves Logan and Felix on the bridge. Eventually Cervando wants to escape the Fitzgerald heat and starts making plans to rat out the Fitzgeralds for Felix's murder. I don't think the rigged explosion on the bus was intended to kill anyone, just scare the hell out of Cervando. This all hinges on someone in the gang telling the Fitzgeralds what Cervando planned, and hey, look at that! Someone in the PCH gang is selling drugs!

I'm not getting too tied to this theory, though. I've seen what can happen when you get too attached to a theory and it doesn't come true.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:December 3rd, 2005 04:54 pm (UTC)
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It's a little known fact that Astrid is Norwegian for "red herring."

By the way, I'm using this for her MI.net bio. Consider it a shout-out. Or plagiarism.
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From:jenelope
Date:December 3rd, 2005 06:25 pm (UTC)
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Heh! Consider it a gift.
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From:jeeperstseepers
Date:December 1st, 2005 04:14 pm (UTC)
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VAN CLEMMONS IS A TOTAL BADASS. Oh my God, I did not think he could be so awesome. First, with the "Gimme all your keys, bitch." And then with the "You think I'm going to give you information about what you were snooping around in? Bitch, please. Okay, here's some information about what you were snooping around in."

I was so glad about the way that turned out, because when she was going through the files, I thought to myself, "Dude, as a punishment for snooping through confidential materials, you're giving her a job...working with confidential materials? That's like giving a crack addict a job in...I don't know, some place with a lot of crack." Learning that he totally knew she'd go through the files and WANTED her to, was cool. I know, I know, parts of the story made no sense but it was still fun.

In fact, much of the episode made no sense. It was contrived and it was convenient and it employed three of the oldest, most hackneyed soap opera plots ever: adoption mystery, surprise unwanted pregnancy, miraculous survival/recovery (Meg's definitely been awake for a long time now--one of the reasons her parents were all "YOU CAN'T GO IN THERE," the other reason being, of course, her swelling belly--but her survival and recovery from the bus crash are still miraculous, and her pretty, seemingly unscarred body more miraculous still). Despite all the flaws, though, I thought it was a really fun ride. I enjoyed the way things played out from minute to minute, and it was only in the end that I realized much of it was dumb. So I'm counting this as a good episode, because it entertained me for an hour and elicited numerous laughs and shouts from me, and that is a good thing.
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From:jeeperstseepers
Date:December 1st, 2005 04:19 pm (UTC)
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Guh. Ignore the comma after "...and WANTED her to" and move it to after "no sense" in the next sentence.
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From:iheartbridges
Date:December 1st, 2005 06:27 pm (UTC)
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"Dude, as a punishment for snooping through confidential materials, you're giving her a job...working with confidential materials? That's like giving a crack addict a job in...I don't know, some place with a lot of crack."
Hee, I totally thought the same thing. Except without the crack. But with the sentiment of the crack, yes.

but her survival and recovery from the bus crash are still miraculous, and her pretty, seemingly unscarred body more miraculous still
And uh, the total survival of the baby?

Anyone else think the babydaddy is her father?
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From:jeeperstseepers
Date:December 1st, 2005 06:33 pm (UTC)
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Anyone else think the babydaddy is her father?

I heard that theory this morning and I prefer not to think about it because it's too horrible. I usually don't even try to speculate about the direction things are going in when I'm watching a show or reading a series of books. I just sit back and let it all unfold.
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From:iheartbridges
Date:December 2nd, 2005 02:29 am (UTC)
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I just sit back and let it all unfold.
Generally, me too. When watching, I wonder about things, but then between eps, I really don't think about it much.
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From:dachelle
Date:December 1st, 2005 05:16 pm (UTC)
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I'm glad I don't read any VM boards/spec, because I was completely shocked by the Meg pregnancy. I hadn't thought of that at all. Meg waking up kind of made me think of Talk to Her, if you've seen that. And then I was reminded of how much that movie disturbed me, and I shuddered.

I *heart* Cassidy and Mac together. Cutest thing ever. I totally need 'shipper icons now.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:December 1st, 2005 10:19 pm (UTC)
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I loved Talk to Her. Great movie. I liked it much more than All About My Mother.
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From:dachelle
Date:December 1st, 2005 10:23 pm (UTC)
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Really? Hmmm. It was well-made, and interesting, but it really bothered me. Not my favorite Almodovar.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:December 1st, 2005 10:26 pm (UTC)
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I loved the way it played with timelines and interlocking stories. It's a thing with me.
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From:ace_and_sep
Date:December 1st, 2005 06:10 pm (UTC)
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I don't think there's any way to fool doctors about a coma, because of brain wave activity. However, it's possible Meg has been out of the coma for a while but people at school don't know yet.

--Ace
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From:spectralbovine
Date:December 1st, 2005 10:21 pm (UTC)
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Well, it's possible there's some conspiracy to keep it under wraps or something. I don't think she's been faking the coma the whole time, but I do think she's been awake since before Veronica's visit.

Hey, an Aeryn icon! I've been watching Farscape. My next episode is "DNA Mad Scientist." I was a little iffy at first, but I'm liking the show more as it goes along.
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From:iheartbridges
Date:December 1st, 2005 06:25 pm (UTC)
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I didn't do anything. I surely didn't have this Principal placard all made up and ready.
Officially my favorite part. When he pulled that out, I ... I just died.

Okay, Mac and Beaver were FLIRTING UP THE ASS. So cute.
I want them to date like, RIGHT NOW.

Also, Meg did not just magically wake up when Veronica left. I definitely got the impression she's been awake. For how long, though. For how long.
I agree - she has been awake for some time.

Did you watch the alternate ending? Boo!!!
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From:spectralbovine
Date:December 1st, 2005 10:22 pm (UTC)
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When Clemmons pulled that placard out, confirming my suspicions that, yes, he had just risen to the level of principal, I think I clapped out loud and cheered and laughed.
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From:magnolia888
Date:December 1st, 2005 11:01 pm (UTC)
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I liked the episode more than you did (and more than most people apparently), but I appreciate your comments and insights.

I'm not sure what you mean about Meg's character development, though. All we know is that she is pregnant. She might have had sex with Duncan just once. Or she could have been raped for all we know (leaving aside the preview). How is that character development?

I think we already knew that she cared a lot about Duncan and they did date for a while, so I am not that shocked that she might have had sex with Duncan. How is that a big change in Meg? She didn't have sex with Cole, but he seemed like sort of a tool and it wasn't clear that she cared about him as much as Duncan.

And is there anyone who didn't "awww" over Beavidy and Mac? Seriously. Could those two be any cuter? [/chandler] I totally didn't see that coming (any interaction or flirtation between them) but it makes perfect sense. And given the fact that every other romance on this show is massively fucked up or dysfunctional, a cute couple helps to counterbalance that. Especially now that Keith and Alicia are on the outs and Alicia has apparently fallen off the face of the earth (along with her son).
From:ch1pper
Date:December 2nd, 2005 12:56 am (UTC)
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I think that Trina coming to NHS jogged Clemmons memory. Then the janitor spilled all the old permanent records. He knows V has been in and out of the school at all times so he had that as a hole card to be used at the opportune moment. Voila! A principalship!

I agree, Meg looked like she was waking up from a nap not a coma. Otherwise, too annoyingly contrived. Of course, isn't this the one the network liked? That would make sense then.
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From:missquita
Date:December 2nd, 2005 03:40 am (UTC)
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This might get lost in the shuffle but Dr. Robert Patten from Rice came to Fresno State for a lecture series and spoke in my Victorian Lit class last night. Did you ever take any courses from him? Interesting man. Anyway, just made me think of you. Congrats on the article!
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From:spectralbovine
Date:December 2nd, 2005 03:45 am (UTC)
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Holy crap!! Yes, I did take a class with him; he was one of my favorite professors!!
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From:missquita
Date:December 7th, 2005 07:42 pm (UTC)
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I thought he would be.
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From:zimshan
Date:December 2nd, 2005 04:45 am (UTC)
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Digging into the past, learning about Lianne...I mean, don't you have more pressing issues to deal with, Veronica?

Yes, but after the last three heavy episodes, didn't you think we needed a little lighter episode? Especially before jumping into next week...
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From:cerulgalactus
Date:December 5th, 2005 07:11 pm (UTC)
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Your gal was awake as - didn't you see that face she made; sort of a "It took you this long to get in here? My my my, Veronica, I expected better from you...oh, yeah - it so is your boyfriend's baby"

All hail the maiden voyage of the SS Macablancas.
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From:meghatron
Date:December 6th, 2005 11:17 pm (UTC)
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SS Macablancas

I think that might be the first 'ship name in the history of 'shipping that I actually love.
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From:cerulgalactus
Date:December 6th, 2005 11:38 pm (UTC)
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Thank you. I'm sure I'm not the first one to come up with it, but until it can be proven otherwise.....[Krusty]"I own it and all it's subsidiary rights"[/Krusty].

But feel free to use it at your leisure.

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