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December 18th, 2009


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11:46 pm - God Loves His Children
I picked up Kingdom Come by Mark Waid and Alex Ross at Half-Price on its reputation alone. My pusher had described it as "the one where Superman is Jesus," and although the story does use a lot of Biblical imagery—especially the Book of Revelation—that's not really what it's about. In fact, what it's about is what it's about, since it felt more like a thought experiment than a comic at first: what would happen if the superheroes turned their backs on humanity? I found it very hard to follow since I'm not well versed in the DCU, but it eventually got more interesting and it did end up making me think about the dichotomy between humans and metahumans and whether they could really coexist. The painted art was very pretty, but I thought it actually detracted from the story and exacerbated the impenetrableness of the narrative. The book is very full of itself.

But you guys don't like comics, you like TV. Dollhouse has turned into quite the interesting and exciting show, hasn't it?

I am far more interested in this show now. Hell, "Meet Jane Doe" was the first time I actually found Echo to be an interesting character. I really liked her monologue about realizing that Caroline was kind of a crappy person, and even though she was in her body, she, Echo, was Someone Else. And she felt she was Someone apart from all her imprints. Unfortunately, that Someone is in love with Paul Ballard for some reason

And oh man, Topher. It's definitely unnerving to see everything leading up to "Epitaph One," and that scene with a broken Topher just becomes more and more terrible. He only figured Rossum's plan out so that he could stop it. I do agree with Adelle that he was also completely fascinated and he wanted to see What He Could Do, but it was clear he never meant to start the Imprint Apocalypse. I wonder what sort of "helping people" use Rossum plans to make up. I suppose you could help the mentally ill by imprinting them with sane versions of themselves?

Also, I kind of can't believe they blew up that guy. I feel like it's rare for a show to brutally kill the hostage. The only reason they show us a hostage situation is for the heroes to save the hostage, you know?

It's like Alan Tudyk was always supposed to play villains. He's really good at it!

If the show went on to a third season, they could have turned it into The Pretender with Echo assuming various roles and helping wayward immigrants.

This week's first episode, though, made her even more powerful! I feel like she's got to explode with all those personalities downloaded into her.

I really don't understand exactly what "Active architecture" is, but I like the various McGuffin-y ways it's been coming into play lately. Now it can be used to make supersoldiers with a hivemind! Oooh.

I know I've seen people trapped in shifting nightmares and dreamscapes and being hunted by some dark creature before...wait, it's fucking "Restless," isn't it? That's why it felt familiar. How cool that Dominic has become a mental freedom fighter, though! Ha.

Aw, Clyde. Trapped in "Epitaph One"! Man. I can't think of another show that has hinged so strongly on one episode before. That episode gives this entire series a purpose, a reason to be. And it didn't even air! Man.

I'm glad they explained the Attic because I was wondering why the hell they bothered with all that equipment and personnel when they could just, you know, kill them. Human computers! Fun times, fun times.

The back-and-forth with Adelle is driving me nutty! I can't take all the betrayals and double-crosses and fake-outs and fake-ins and WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON. I think if I just believe that she is not actually an evil backstabbing bitch, things will make more sense from here on out.

The final scene was awesome! Everyone banding together to take down Rossum! Yay! And then Echo had to go and ruin it by invoking fucking Caroline. Look, no one gives a shit about meeting Caroline, okay?

I don't understand what they were even planning to do in a third season. Things are moving insanely fast, and they didn't know they were canceled yet. It seems like they were moving to a whole new paradigm for the show, very different from most of the first season. Hell, unless they go back on it, they replaced Victor and Sierra with Tony and Priya, who won't willingly go back to being Actives, surely. Of course, they replaced Ballard with Ballard...minus something. I hope it's his libido.
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From:snoopypez
Date:December 19th, 2009 08:06 am (UTC)
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I don't understand what they were even planning to do in a third season. Things are moving insanely fast, and they didn't know they were canceled yet.

I think it feels like Joss had to have known on some level, so he decided to speed it up. I personally wish they had been granted a FULL second season and THEN ended it, because during last week's episodes is when it really started to feel on hyperdrive. heh. They probably had to condense and skip things, and sure, it makes for fantastic episodes but I wouldn't have minded it being a LITTLE more gradual.

(plus, there was tons of talk of there being gayer storylines with the actives, and I am sad we didn't get to see it.)
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From:gossi
Date:December 19th, 2009 02:43 pm (UTC)
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They actually did a gay storyline script, but FOX vetoed it. Act surprised!
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From:chrryblssmninja
Date:December 19th, 2009 10:35 am (UTC)
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Kingdom Come is one of the comics that pulled me into the whole comics world. It's probably one of the reasons why I like old-style origin-story things, although another series Alex Ross illustrated, Marvels, probably did it better.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:December 19th, 2009 05:19 pm (UTC)
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Really? You read it without being a comics fan and it got you into comics? That's cool. It's clearly best appreciated by someone familiar with all the characters, but I guess I could see how the concepts would draw you into the world. I haven't checked out Marvels.
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From:chrryblssmninja
Date:December 19th, 2009 07:05 pm (UTC)
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It was more one of the things that got me into comics. I sort of knew backstories from the various '90's animated series and what friends said, but sometime during or after the X-men movie came out, I decided to finally read more than one issue for fun. It was an issue of Uncanny X-men, the funeral for Moira Kelly. I liked it, read a few more issues, and started borrowing various comics encyclopedias, Kingdom Come, Narvels, and some Green Lantern trade, Darkest Night or something.
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From:teapot37
Date:December 19th, 2009 07:28 pm (UTC)
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I think you meant Moira McTaggart. :)
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From:chrryblssmninja
Date:December 19th, 2009 07:30 pm (UTC)
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-headdesk-


Thanks - I'm watching a soccer game so my brain wasn't fully into it
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From:lembeau
Date:December 19th, 2009 08:08 pm (UTC)
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Obligatory PRETENDER!!! comment. That was an awesome show. And maybe one day I'll watch this show. :O)
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From:prophetkristy
Date:December 20th, 2009 10:48 pm (UTC)
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We were totally waiting for someone to show up in the Attic with cheese on his head.

And I was wondering the SAME THING about the Attic and why they didn't just kill people.
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From:barenakedjanie
Date:December 22nd, 2009 12:41 am (UTC)
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And oh man, Topher. It's definitely unnerving to see everything leading up to "Epitaph One," and that scene with a broken Topher just becomes more and more terrible. He only figured Rossum's plan out so that he could stop it. I do agree with Adelle that he was also completely fascinated and he wanted to see What He Could Do, but it was clear he never meant to start the Imprint Apocalypse.

Every time there is a scene with Topher discovering more ways to alter the brain, I want to scream "STOP! You don't realize what you're doing!!". Definitely unnerving.


I'm glad they explained the Attic because I was wondering why the hell they bothered with all that equipment and personnel when they could just, you know, kill them. Human computers! Fun times, fun times.

My thought was, why a single room for each stored body? Why not a hospital ward-type of a room?

Enver Gjokaj is really a great actor - he made Tony seem completely different from every other download.


Edited at 2009-12-22 12:42 am (UTC)
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From:janinedog
Date:December 22nd, 2009 07:57 pm (UTC)
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We finally watched these episodes last night...omg I loved it. I'm pretty sure that Joss knew at this point that the show was being canceled, but I could be wrong. I read on Wikipedia that Fox gave him advance notice so that he could finish filming (I guess they were trying to be nice?). So I assume he just decided to squeeze the rest of the storyline into the last couple of episodes, which is why it's so fast-paced now.

I love it though. Every time I thought I knew what was going to happen next, something totally different happened. And they have to consult Caroline now because Caroline saw who the other founder (and Clyde 2.0) of Rossum was. So I assume they'll go to her (i.e. Echo will get imprinted with her) to find out who they're fighting. I imagine it'll be someone we've met in the show before, because I doubt it'll be a totally new person (no point it making the identity mysterious then). And I know that Alpha has to play another part in it before it's all over, I'm just not sure how. I was also wondering what happened to Whiskey...her storyline didn't really resolve. I hope she comes back before it's all over.

I can't wait to see what happens next!
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From:thetheatremouse
Date:December 24th, 2009 07:56 pm (UTC)
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Things are moving insanely fast, and they didn't know they were canceled yet.
I thought I had read something that said they did...I don't know if I'm inventing this memory, but I thought they had something like 6 episodes notice. So it made sense to me that these last few have all been in superspeed. Before that happened I was thinking that this season would probably wrap up the Alpha stuff, and then next season could potentially wrap up the whole bigger picture Rossum stuff, but the cancellation (enough notice to wrap it up at all instead of some annoying cliffhanger) made them smash it all together and unravel everything at once.

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