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04:08 pm - Battlestar Galactica? More Like "Battlestar Scralatchtica"!
So. I had heard nothing but good things about BSG, but I hadn't caught the miniseries back in the day, and I was watching a lot of shows already, so the first season passed me by.

But now is the summer of my discontent, and kieyra uploaded the mini for me. The volume was really really low, but I tried not to hold that against it. I watched it last Saturday, and I'd planned to only watch the first half, but it didn't end with an appropriately climactic cliffhanger, so I trucked along late into the night. I thought it was pretty good, satisfactory. Nothing special, though. The ending was an OMGWTF moment I realized I would probably been spoiled for if I'd understood the comments I had read on the forums earlier. Luckily, I am stupid and forgetful.

Then the lovely kiwikazoomisskiwi mailed me the first season on several CDs, though they didn't arrive in time for me watch the S2 premiere. They arrived yesterday.

I watched the entire first season in 11.5 hours.

Which, given the amount of continuity on this show, works surprisingly well. I'm getting rather fond of this thirteen-episode-season concept. It forces you to make every episode count. To advance the story with every scene. To, rather than introduce something totally new, take advantage of something old and use it for a new purpose.

It's hard to figure out what my opinion of the show is, having watched it in one go as I did. You get a different reaction to a show when you watch it every week and discuss it with your friends until the next episode, so that each individual episode is exalted anew. I'm not sure which superlatives to use. I know that's it really, really good. Probably really, really good. Maybe great. Maybe it rocks. Perhaps it's fucking awesome. I do know that this is one kickass sci-fi drama.

And it's definitely a drama. It's very...serious. There isn't enough humor in all thirteen episodes to fill out even half an episode. Which isn't a criticism, just an observation.

Identity Issues? Check. Making the Hard Choices? Check like fucking whoa. Power Struggles? Check. Hot Chicks and Cleavage? Check. I think I should probably also add Prophecies and Shit Like That.

Maybe they only did this in the Sky One airings, or maybe they changed the credits for the new season, but I really like the montage of scenes from the episode after the opening credits. And I love the music! All pounding drums and all. The music for the show is really good; it's very ambient and never gets in the way of action. It simply underscores it without calling attention to itself, saying, "Feel, dammit, feel!"

All right, I'm itching to jump to the spoilery section, just because I feel like I can better say what I need to. So, here are some non-spoilery reasons why the show is so good. As I said earlier, continuity plays a very big part; the events of one episode are not forgotten and continue to have effects in the future. There are a lot of characters, and the major secondary characters feel like real people, even if they're not given a lot to do, which is probably a credit to the actors. And speaking of not being given a lot to do, the show never feels obligated to use characters it doesn't need. Different episodes have varied screentime for the characters, depending on who's necessary. The show takes a real look at how human civilization might try to function after being nearly wiped out, albeit from a rather skewed perspective of those in control.

Also, there are robots and spaceships and explosions.

Okay then, if you were at all interested in checking out BSG and were just waiting around for my opinion, there you have it. Fucking watch it. Now, go away before you get spoiled.

Episode by episode, shall we?

"33": No, really. Why every 33 minutes? Is this some Jesus thing? The show's already better than the miniseries, which I think was hampered by being, you know, a pilot disguised as a miniseries. I like Starbuck, and I like Tyrol, and I like Cally. And I really like Baltar. I love that his subconscious Six is written so cleverly as to walk the line between Baltar's subconscious and the actual Cylon Six. I love that he's both aware of his delusion and completely accepting of it. I'm glad there was a legitimate reason for the Cylons' being able to freaking track them every single jump they made. I think I missed exactly what sort of incriminating evidence Dr. Emerick had on Baltar, but again, I love that he was able to logically justify the destruction of the Olympic Carrier and embrace the coincidence of Emerick's being on that ship as a sign from God. The way Baltar deludes himself into becoming religious is one of my favorite storylines. On the other hand, Helo on Caprica is my least favorite thing on the show ever, but more on that as we go on.

"Water": Oh no, Boomer! Why you gotta be blowing up shit like that? I'm wondering how her sleeper agent programming operates. I mean, does it take over at random moments? "Let's make out with Tyrol. Mmm, Tyrol. *click* MUST PLANT BOMBS. BLOW UP SHIP. MMM TYROL." Plus, there's that weird moment where she can't see the water on the screen, or she can see it but can't report it, or something. Then there's the other Boomer, and I thought, "Aah, that's kind of cool. Helo'll think she came back for him." Except I could not bother to care about Helo since I hardly knew him, and I couldn't see the point of the storyline at all. What could possibly happen? He was going to find a ship? How the fuck was he supposed to find the Galactica? And why were the Cylons bothering to keep him alive? What purpose could he possibly serve? It just seemed like such a lost cause, and there were no hints of a plausible, interesting endpoint, that I practically groaned every time CYLON-OCCUPIED CAPRICA came up. Also, Apollo, I know everyone on this show likes guilt, but the Olympic Carrier was going to launch a fucking nuke at your ship. You had no choice. You did the right thing. You yourself didn't even see any people on the ship.

"Bastille Day": It's Oz in spaaaaaace!! I was supposed to like Apollo by this episode (I didn't really care for him in the mini), and I suppose I did. I like the conflict he has between his loyalty to his father and his loyalty to democracy. Also, go Cally! I knew I liked you for more than just being cute! Rock on with your ear-biting self, girl. I also like the President. I get pissed at all the characters who complain about a "schoolteacher" running everything without acknowledging that she's been doing a fucking awesome job, given the circumstances. Hell, she was doing fine even before she took the actual office, and that kind of bothered me in the mini, because it's not interesting to watch someone who can handle the job handling the job. But then I realized that's not what her character is about. Whether or not she can handle the job is not her major conflict. She has to struggle to be taken seriously. She's trying to do her best for the fifty thousand people she has left. And then she becomes Prophecy Girl, but that comes later.

"Act of Contrition": Whee, flashbacks! It's angstapalooza as the Zak issue comes to the fore, and I think this is when I started really liking the show. I'd already thought the directing style was interesting, with its frequent use of quick zooms and lots of handheld work, but the flashback style was different as well. Lots of quick cuts and fancy editing. And the re-entry flashback turned out to be a glimpse of the future, 12 Monkeys-style. And I don't know, I just liked the way the Zak issue was handled. It felt...real, I guess. No fancy flourishes, no plot twists, just...this is what happens when things happen. Though I didn't really understand why the death of Flattop (pointed out in the previous episode...as one of her students, oh fuck, I'm so dumb. That's why she was getting the Zak trigger; one of her students had died, although it had nothing to do with his being a crappy pilot and everything to do with bad luck) nevermind I figured it out in the parenthetical.

"You Can't Go Home Again": All right, let's set aside the complete nonsense that is Starbuck figuring out how to mechanically operate a biological ship. It was still cool. Also, kind of a gamble that the ship breathes oxygen, girl. Still, cool. Does the name Cylon Raider make anyone else think of Tusken Raiders? I love the shape of the Raiders. Now, I really liked this episode, but it annoyed me to no end that they tried to make it look like the search for Starbuck was completely and utterly personal. Look, President. She's their best pilot, and you have a shortage of pilots. Also, as their best pilot, she is the best possible flight instructor you have, and did I mention the shortage of pilots? And guys, that scene where Apollo sees that she's written STARBUCK on the bottom of the Raider? Made me smile real big. I don't know why. It was so adorable, and I was wondering how she was going to manage to get back home without being mistaken for a Cylon and blown up. I was expecting her to execute some sort of Starbuck-specific maneuver that Apollo would recognize. But that STAR on one side and the BUCK on the other? Made me smile. I was glad she made it back. Oh, are Helo and Boomer discovering food or some shit like that, or is that some other episode? Whatever, I don't care.

"Litmus": KA-BOOM!! Nice teaser. And ah, very nice. They turned the Boomer/Tyrol thing into a major plot point and not just an excuse for more making out. Stupid independent tribunal. Oh, there's one good thing about the Caprica storyline, and that's the presence of Centurions. They look really cool. Also, it is kind of nice to see what the real Six is up to. You know, we've only seen four Cylon models. I'm wondering when we'll see the other eight. Also, who rules the Cylons? What's he or she up to? How come the Cylons don't ever seem to mention a leader? And what are they doing worshipping God, anyway? How do machines get religion? And why, in the future, have humans reverted to worshipping the Greek gods?

"Six Degrees of Separation": Haaaa. Baltar, you crazy, crazy man. Who the hell is this Shelly Godfrey? Was she an actual Six that consorted with Dr. Emerick? Do the different models not share a consciousness? Does Shelly Godfrey have any knowledge from Baltar's Six? I'm so confused. But this was a fun episode, and again, I love the way the writers set things up so that Baltar can come up with a logical explanation that may or may not be true, but satisfies him. Are Boomer and Helo having the sex? Whatever.

"Flesh and Bone": Torture is fun! I love the signals Starbuck gives to the guards. There are a lot of physical things I love about Katee Sackhoff's performance, the way she moves, her facial expessions, her cleavage. And although the "you're a machine!" argument got kind of old after a while, I find it interesting that in the end, she had some doubts. And whoa on the freaky President dreams. Again, love the quick-cut flash style. Also appreciated that the flash before the airlock was ultraquick, and just a shift in the background, basically. They didn't hammer it home by superimposing his flight out into space with how strange it looked in the dream, because they figured we got it.

"Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down": If I had to pick a least favorite episode, this would probably be it. I really don't like Ellen. The "Is Adama a Cylon?" question is too ludicrous to consider, and I thought it would be a fakeout with Apollo being the Cylon, but even that was a ludicrous notion to consider. There's no reason to think the Cylons can replace humans with Cylon models, though I guess the President doesn't know there are only twelve, and it's unlikely one of them looks just like Adama. Plus, there's quite a bit of humor in this episode. That is, there's quite a bit of attempts at humor. The humor in this episode just feels...off. Out of place. Except anything Baltar-related. That's always amusing.

"The Hand of God": You know what this show needs more of? FUCKING SPACESHIPS BLOWING UP OTHER SPACESHIPS AND POSSIBLY OTHER THINGS AS WELL. So that's why this episode kind of rocked, especially with Starbuck's out-of-the-box strategy. I loved their little war room with their little toy planes being shuffled around. Also, people need to stop doubting Apollo so he'll stop feeling doubted. His name is fucking Apollo. Clearly, he's good at something. And Gaius's conversion is complete. He is an instrument of God. Nice.

"Colonial Day": Ooh, politics! Assassination! Barfight! The sun! Also, it took me this long to realize the colonies are named after the signs of the Zodiac. It's about this time the President starts having her hallucinations and discovers she's the instrument of God, right? I also like the continuity of the reporter whom Gaius fucks in the bathroom, as I'd had my eye on her; she'd been at all the press conferences. Something vaguely interesting to come out of the Caprica storyline is the fact that the Sharon model seems to be faulty, which explains why both Boomers are so intent on being human. But is it faulty...OR SUPERIOR!

"Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part 1": I'm not sure why Kalbear is "wowza" about the teaser, but I really like the music. It does a nice job of tying together all the various tensions in different storylines. But dude, Kobol! The prophecies are real! Or at least extremely prone to being interpreted through coincidences! Why are the Cylons guarding Kobol, huh? Hmm. Crash landing! Starbuck takes a page out of Apollo's book and talks to the President! And discovers she's been duped. Duped, I say! Why put your faith in lies when you can put your faith in the ARROW OF APOLLO?

"Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part 2": Well. Adama finally goes nuts and takes over the world. Apollo chooses a side, or he makes up his own. Boomer finally figures out that yes, Virginia, you are a Cylon. Starbuck tries to give the Caprica storyline some relevance, but she fails. I honestly think they could have gotten away with Starbuck discovering Helo and Boomer in the museum and having Helo give a short recap of his boring fifty-day journey. It would have been a nice surprise, or something. Because apparently the only reason for the storyline is that Boomer's pregnant WTF? How the fuck does that work? Oh, and it was nice to see Six as a badass, though I was really afraid the Arrow of Apollo was going to get broken. Hell if I know what the fuck Gaius's crazy dream is about, but again, such great music. And my heart skipped a beat when Boomer shot Adama. I was watching at four A.M., having trouble staying awake, but that got me.

And luckily, I had the S2 premiere ready to watch on tape today. Stop scrolling if you haven't seen it yet.

What a teaser, huh? What's, like, the worst thing you can possibly think of happening? You jump, and you're totally alone. Cut off from everyone. No way to contact them. No way to find them. You are royally fucked. Speaking of royally fucked, Starbuck is stranded on Caprica with Helo. Fuck. At least I actually care about Starbuck. Maybe she'll kill him and eat him. And dude, spaceship fight yay! Breaking through firewalls has never been so exciting. Go Cally with the gun-shooting! Oh, and flashbacks to flesh out the Adama/Tigh relationship. Nice. I never particularly cared about Tigh one way or the other, but this made him more interesting. And the Galactica has been infiltrated by killer robots. Did I mention royally fucked?

So, okay. Battlestar Galactica? Awesome show. Now, time to read glumpishStrega's recaps. I have a feeling I'll enjoy them a lot, because I really like it when the recapper actually likes the show they're recapping.
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From:hobviously
Date:July 17th, 2005 08:28 pm (UTC)

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Man, how can you be so uncaring about Helo? He's Heloooo. He's AWESOME. Helo segments are always highlights for me. I loved him from the moment we met him in the mini and I knew that he loved Boomer and she was taken up with Gimblesex. And then he sacrificed himself for the good of humanity! But was duped because it was fucking Gilderoy the Traitor of Ineptitude! That sucks so much, and then he was so brave and awesome and finally got his Boomerlove awwwwww.

So even if the Helo storyline does nothing for you, I love it, and I hate everything Baltar-related because he sucks and I want him to die, so I guess that kind of proves how well the show uses the ensemble format: there's something for everyone.

And why, in the future, have humans reverted to worshipping the Greek gods?

"All of this has happened before and all of this will happen again."

Which is not to say, necessarily, that it is the future at all. Personally, I think it's the past.

Also, the KLG1 teaser is a thing of brilliance, with the music and the drama and the quick cuts and the pilotsex. Hot damn.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:July 17th, 2005 08:42 pm (UTC)

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Haaa. I find it terribly amusing that we are complete opposites on Helo and Baltar.

Which is not to say, necessarily, that it is the future at all. Personally, I think it's the past.

I thought about that, the idea that these people were going to end up colonizing Earth, but then I decided it didn't seem to make sense cause of the evolution of humanity and all. They would have to become cavemen and lose all their technology and instincts in order for that to work.

The KLG1 teaser is definitely lovely.
From:hobviously
Date:July 17th, 2005 08:56 pm (UTC)

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I thought about that, the idea that these people were going to end up colonizing Earth, but then I decided it didn't seem to make sense cause of the evolution of humanity and all. They would have to become cavemen and lose all their technology and instincts in order for that to work.

Yeah, that does throw a wrench in it, doesn't it? And yet...it doesn't feel like the future to me, either. I think I'm happiest thinking it's vaguely past-y and sort of in an alternate dimension and mostly I don't care, because it's fictional and stuff.
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From:teenes
Date:July 17th, 2005 09:44 pm (UTC)

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I don't actually have time to reply more right now (though I'm glad you like the show - it's awesome! And - whoa, 11.5 hours? Don't think I could do that!) but the original BSG, they actually suggested heavily that these were the predecessors of Earth. Including the suggestion that the gods of the colonies became the Greek gods of Earth, and that they were the precursors to the Aztec/Egyptian/other advanced historical civilizations. The new series doesn't so much explore this idea, so I'm unclear as to whether this is supposed to be post-Earth or pre-Earth. I'm not sure they even intend to be clear on that. But the original series was definitely supposed to be either pre-or-parallel Earth.
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From:kiwikazoo
Date:July 18th, 2005 04:41 pm (UTC)

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I've never seen the original series, but in the current one they've gone out of their way not to lean one way or the other. The whole setting is designed to be familiar but unplaceable. I think if they implied that this was the past or the future it would take you away from the characters and situations, make it less real.
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From:capnnick
Date:July 17th, 2005 09:18 pm (UTC)
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I am a huge fan of deliberately finite seasons.
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From:ariiadne
Date:July 17th, 2005 11:00 pm (UTC)
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Garth keeps bugging me to watch that show - he and our friend Bee have a regular Friday night thing where they watch the new episodes together. But since I haven't had Friday nights free for like a year I haven't yet... but I'm gonna start real soon! Yay!
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From:spectralbovine
Date:July 18th, 2005 12:01 am (UTC)
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I did see it! That was so cool! And finally, a picture! A side view, but still, physicality!

And whee for Baltar! I'm reading the recaps, and Strega likes him too, so that makes three of us.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:July 18th, 2005 02:23 am (UTC)
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It's pretty awesome all in one day, really.

The thing about "Act of Contrition" is I think Starbuck's flashbacks start before the funeral and the student-training. They seem to be triggered Flattop's death in general, which was good. But whatever, I like flashbacks. More than you. Heh.

I thought I would like Helo's story, but I got tired of it really quickly. But looking it as a black comedy is amusing.

And I'm noticing in your recaps that you're "partial" to the idea that Six is Baltar's subconscious. I didn't realize there was an actual option for her not to be. I love the way she's written to be a little ambiguous, but there's that great scene in the mini where she points to the Cylon transponder and says "it hasn't blown up...YET. I'm just guessing." It's clear that the holes in Six's knowledge are the holes in Baltar's knowledge. There would be no reason for a real Six to have those holes, especially since Baltar obviously can't tell the difference. He think she's a subconscious manifestation, but I think he'd be perfectly willing to accept the alternative, so if a real Six wanted to control him, she could really be a little more blatant about it. I'd actually be disappointed if it turned out to be a real Six. The only other option that would be fun is if Six turned out to be God, and it was this big Baltar of Galactica thing.
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From:peri_peteia
Date:July 18th, 2005 02:36 am (UTC)
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Why put your faith in lies when you can put your faith in the ARROW OF APOLLO?

And as seen in the beginning of KLG1, Starbuck spends a whooooole lot of time thinking about Apollo's Arrow that's for damn sure.

*shifty*

I'M SORRY NO ONE HAD MADE THE JOKE YET ON THIS ENTRY!

I'm not sure why Kalbear is "wowza" about the teaser

Two words: Hot pilotsex.

Oh, and clever, ironic editing.

So, I guess it's five words.
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From:vonniek
Date:July 18th, 2005 03:48 am (UTC)
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Yay, your getting into BSG! It's such a good show.

I agree that the music on this show kicks all kind of ass. The Plaintive Vaguely Ethnic Wailing (tm cleolinda) usually bugs me, but it works so well in the context of the show, and the drums, oh the drums, they work so well when they come banging in during the battle scenes.

The teaser to KLG1 is one of my favorite moments in the entire TV season last year (it's, like, up there with "because you are my sister!"), and it had A LOT to do with that gorgeous music. I love how the whole thing is almost wordless and satured with heightened emotion, and how the languid autumnal melancholy of the music is contrasted with the violence of the emotions. I watch it often--just that teaser--to soak it all in. Ahhh. I love all that operatic despair crap.
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From:warden96
Date:July 18th, 2005 04:00 am (UTC)
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I kind of like the Helo storyline as it takes us someplace away from Galactica for breaks now and then plus we get another insight into the Cylons' plan. Also he's pretty good eye candy for the female viewership.
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From:starspentswell
Date:July 18th, 2005 04:06 pm (UTC)
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D's been trying to get me to watch this but I missed the mini series and I kept not getting some parts because I was missing the backstory. *sigh*

Have you seen any of the 1980's eps? I'm such a geek. I totally loved the old show. It was entirely fluff and 2 dimensional but I saw a few of the eps on the sci-fi channel over 4th of July weekend and I still like the cheese of it.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:July 18th, 2005 04:09 pm (UTC)
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I have not, and I was surprised to discover it was only one season. I thought it had been this long-running popular series, the way people talked about it.

I think you can understand the series without the mini, because they give you the necessary info in the previews and flashbacks, usually. But it's obviously preferable to watch the mini at some point.
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From:starspentswell
Date:July 18th, 2005 07:43 pm (UTC)
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Actually some parts are a bit befuddling. But D is planning on buying the miniseries today so I can see the shape of my weekend already.

I totally suck though because I didn't want to go to the panel because I didn't want to be spoiled at all... but now I see that was kind of du
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From:starspentswell
Date:July 18th, 2005 07:44 pm (UTC)
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The last word is 'dumb'. Aptly describing the girl who can hit post some how while typing.
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From:kiwikazoo
Date:July 18th, 2005 04:38 pm (UTC)
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Yay! Another convert! Have you watched the deleted scenes on SciFi's website? They often add a lot to the episodes and the overall arcs. The other thing I have to get around to doing is listening to Ron Moore's podcasts for the episodes.

On the other hand, Helo on Caprica is my least favorite thing on the show ever, but more on that as we go on.

Really? I enjoyed the Helo bits because mmmm, Helo, as well as because it gave us a glimpse at the Cylons' master plan and because poor Helo is so totally screwed and doesn't even realize it.

Now, I really liked this episode, but it annoyed me to no end that they tried to make it look like the search for Starbuck was completely and utterly personal.

Nobody objected to them searching for Starbuck. What crossed the line was when Adama and Apollo started putting the entire fleet in danger (by sticking around after the Cylons had found them and by redeploying the CAP), wasting resources (using half the fuel reserves and grounding Vipers), and ignoring reason (the clock running out).

They didn't hammer it home by superimposing his flight out into space with how strange it looked in the dream, because they figured we got it.

It was also nice they didn't beat us over the head with THIS IS WRONG. They made it clear that the President thought torturing Leoben was crossing the line while Starbuck, at least initially, thought it was perfectly acceptable, but neither character gave a moralizing speech about it.

The "Is Adama a Cylon?" question is too ludicrous to consider

I don't think the audience was meant to think Adama is a Cylon. I think the point there is to watch what happens when the President thinks Adama is a Cylon. It's a sign of the paranoia that's starting to eat away at them.

The humor in ["Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down"] just feels...off. Out of place.

I read somewhere (Strega, perhaps?) that the network had them add more humor to "Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down" as a counterpoint to the darker "Flesh and Bone". That may be why it feels forced, although I found a lot of it hilarious.

So that's why this episode kind of rocked, especially with Starbuck's out-of-the-box strategy.

I loved "Hand of God" but the one thing that really bugged me is how far out of their way they went to fool the audience. It seemed contrived that Adama went to that much trouble to fake out the President. Instead, I'd rather that we had never seen Starbuck explaining the whole plan and had been left to be surprised, rather than seeing a fake plan explained as misdirection.

I'm not sure why Kalbear is "wowza" about the teaser, but I really like the music.

Because it's so fucking awesome!

Because apparently the only reason for the storyline is that Boomer's pregnant WTF? How the fuck does that work?

I'm a little meh on the whole pregnancy storyline, but if you go back and watch the season knowing what they're getting at, it's quite interesting what jumps out. Off the top of my head, there's Six and the baby in the miniseries, and it's either in the mini or in one of the first couple of episodes that Six tells Baltar she wants to have a child with him.

And my heart skipped a beat when Boomer shot Adama. I was watching at four A.M., having trouble staying awake, but that got me.

I'm curious to see if that camera jerk towards Gaeta shaking Boomer's hand will turn out to be important, if it was just a fluke, or if it was just trying to make us think it was important. Damn you, Ron Moore!
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From:smonsterbite
Date:July 19th, 2005 08:17 pm (UTC)
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And why, in the future, have humans reverted to worshipping the Greek gods?

I believe Earth is the 13th colony, so it's more like Earthlings became monotheistic, the rest of them kept their Lords of Kobol. Whether it's the future, now, or past is up for debate AFAIK.

I hated Gaius/Six stuff at first, but it irks me less now. I like the Caprica storyline. And Starbuck is my girlfriend.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:July 19th, 2005 08:21 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, most everyone seems to like the Caprica storyline but me. I think I might like it more on a rewatch, now that I know it does have some sort of point. That point hasn't totally been clarified yet, really, and I still don't care much about Helo.

I love the Gaius/Six stuff, but it's confusing to think of subconscious Six as a character I like, cause she's...not real. Though I like the real Six too, cause she can beat the crap out of people.
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From:smonsterbite
Date:July 19th, 2005 08:36 pm (UTC)
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Oh, no, there are lots of people who hate the Caprica storyline. You are not alone.

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From:spectralbovine
Date:July 19th, 2005 08:38 pm (UTC)
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Yay!

I was surprised that most everyone I talked to liked it, because I'm one of those people who likes everything, so if I didn't like it, clearly there must be a strong contingent of people who shared my feelings!
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From:warden96
Date:July 20th, 2005 05:32 am (UTC)
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Different strokes for different folks but maybe in Season 2, it will grow on you. I like it for the intertwined yet parallel running.
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From:shutterbug1
Date:August 2nd, 2005 01:43 am (UTC)
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This is how I understood it, too, for the new version at least (I haven't seen the old). The 13 colonies left Kobol at the same time, but the 13th separated from the other 12 and settled on Earth, and thereafter became the stuff of legends.

So, basically, the Earth colony and the 12 colonies evolved simultaneously, which presupposes why the human culture is familiar to viewers, rather than weirdly alien. (Beyond the ease-of-production explanations, of course...) How far the whole thing is in the future, or if the 12 colonies just evolved more rapidly than Earth, isn't really established, from what I can tell.
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From:areacode212
Date:July 20th, 2005 05:47 am (UTC)
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Maybe they only did this in the Sky One airings, or maybe they changed the credits for the new season, but I really like the montage of scenes from the episode after the opening credits. And I love the music! All pounding drums and all.

They changed the credits for this season. Losing the militaristic pounding drums is quite upsetting to me....and just when I was starting to get used to the old theme music, they went and figured out a way to make it even less catchy!

I like the Caprica scenes mainly because visually, it's a refreshing change from having to look at that drab ship all the time. Also, the possibility of getting to see Boomer's naked glowing back may have something to do with it.
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From:_jems_
Date:July 20th, 2005 10:08 pm (UTC)
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I didn't watch the show as quickly as you did, but I did watch it after almost everyone else (except for the Americans), and I was surprised by a lot of the things that people in the fandom took for granted, but which I had completely different theories about. You can read my entry here.

I'm especially enamoured with my Gaius/Six ideas, and Starbuck-as-a-Cylon, even though everyone hates that. I think I like it so much because I don't think the Cylons are inherently evil, just like humans aren't inherently evil. The Cylons, however, are playing their part in the prophecy, and they know how it has to end, so they need to do everything in their power to bring about that end.

As you can probably tell by my entry and this comment I'm all about the prophecy and the Cylons when it comes to BSG. They're what fascinate me, and I think a lot of it has to do with none of the characters drawing me in enough. I like them all, I'm just not in love with any of them. They're interesting, but I don't feel the depth is there.

A few other observations: The "Adama is a Cylon" thing immediately made me think it was Apollo, but lately I've started to think it might be Zak. If Zak came back they'd undoubtedly know he was a Cylon, but would that matter so much for the Adamas and Starbuck, who all loved him and miss him to this day?

My brother made an interesting observation. I recently convinced him to watch Firefly (it's hard to sell a show about space cowboys. Trust me, I try it on everyone and he's the only one who's taken me up on it) and afterwards he wondered why they'd stolen so much of BSG's cinematic style and that's when I realized how much BSG ripped off Firefly. Joss really did have a unique vision when he came up with the handheld action for that show.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:July 20th, 2005 10:13 pm (UTC)
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I'm all about prophecies as well, so I'm definitely wondering what the hell the Cylons are up to.

Zak, huh? But Zak was a crappy pilot! Cylons are robots, man! ROBOTS! That would be pretty weird for the Adamas and Starbuck though, huh?

And yeah, the handheld thing is totally from Firefly, as are the special effects.

Off to read your post!

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