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April 6th, 2009


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11:12 pm - Watch Out for That White Death Pod!
Am I a bad POC for not actively engaging in the Great Cultural Appropriation Debate and not being offended by all the great many things I'm apparently supposed to be offended by? Sometimes I wonder.

Chuck

So Roark Industries is supposed to be Google, right? They have those little ball things at Google, I think. And they dine on sunshine and rainbows and have personal masseuses and get to see all the blockbuster movies two weeks early. That's what I hear about Google.

I was about to say something about the guy asking what Chuck did after "graduating" from Stanford, but I just remembered that the CIA gave him his diploma. So I guess he can put that he graduated on his résumé?

I can't believe Chuck pulled a gun on Casey. Casey! A tranq gun, but still. That kid's got balls.

The whole Internet basically figured out that Orion was Chuck's dad, so that was no big surprise. Even though he didn't really explain exactly how he faked his death. And I didn't totally follow the reason he had to leave to protect Chuck and Ellie. And I forgot what happened to their mom. Did she die?

Bakula's looking better than Chase.

Heroes

I really think the show has been markedly better since Bryan Fuller's return. Unless I'm just seeing what I want to see. But it just feels more like the show we all loved back in season one.

Now that Sylar's a shapeshifter, I keep thinking Everyone Is Sylar. So in that first scene I thought Sandra was Sylar, but nooo, it was Danko who was Sylar for no apparent reason. And then later on I really did suspect Sandra was Sylar and she was. And then I thought that Noah was Sylar and he wasn't. GOD. I'll bet it's fun for the actors.

I'm glad Bennet didn't just take Sylar's body at face value, and I love that Sylar really can push his buttons. It was fun yet sad to see Bennet become more and more paranoid. I don't remember what Sylar really has against Bennet, though. Why the sudden urge to Destroy Him? I mean, sure, they've kind of been archenemies since the beginning of the series, but Sylar's motivations have been especially murky this season.

Loved the explanation for how Sylar survived the Primatech collapse. Ha, melting glass. I will actually buy that, whatever.

Are we supposed to feel sorry for Danko? Because I do not, although that story was interesting. He is kind of a person! And, damn, if Matt had actually gone through with killing Elena, I would have wished for his swift death so very fast.

I love that this show will still have an entire scene in subtitled Japanese. And...then introduce a Japanese-Texan, haaaaa. That guy needs to come back somehow.

Ando's faaaaaaaaaaace was great.

What happened at Coyote Sands? There are bodies with holes in their heads. I WANT TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS CRAZY MYSTERY THAT WAS JUST RANDOMLY INTRODUCED MYSTERIOUSLY IN THIS EPISODE. WHAT THE HELL.
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From:raelee
Date:April 7th, 2009 06:41 am (UTC)
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Am I a bad POC for not actively engaging in the Great Cultural Appropriation Debate and not being offended by all the great many things I'm apparently supposed to be offended by?

What are the things you were supposed to be offended by?

The whole Internet basically figured out that Orion was Chuck's dad, so that was no big surprise.

Yeah, that. This is why I couldn't really say *anything* in my early review because almost everyone I knew had already figured it out and I knew I'd be spoiling things if I said the "reveal" in the episode was no surprise. In fact, I kept waiting for it to happen because I *knew* it had to be true.

That said, I still thought the episode was really strong if only because I bought what everyone was feeling. And, having watched it a second (or third) time, I caught a lot of things that I really loved in Bakula's performance once I knew for sure he was Orion.

I look forward to Chevy actually having more to do.

I really think the show has been markedly better since Bryan Fuller's return.

I buy that. Tonight was the first time I've watched in weeks and I can see that it's much better. Or, rather, I could actually understand what was going on and it amused and drew me in to some degree. However, I think I've detached. Because I was watching it thinking, "If I were still watching this show, I'd be liking where these stories seem to be going." Have Heroes and I truly parted ways?

Also, they need to let Hayden go back to her real hair. It's kind of ridiculous at this point. When the girl's only got night scenes and her hair still looks hideously fake, there needs to be an intervention.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:April 7th, 2009 06:51 am (UTC)
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What are the things you were supposed to be offended by?
Oh, everything. Nose rings. Curry. Yoga. Karma.

That said, I still thought the episode was really strong if only because I bought what everyone was feeling.
Yeah, although I still don't understand the big deal about the bachelor party. Especially because those pictures continue to make no sense based on what we saw.

I buy that. Tonight was the first time I've watched in weeks and I can see that it's much better. Or, rather, I could actually understand what was going on and it amused and drew me in to some degree.
That's good! So it's not just me.
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From:raelee
Date:April 7th, 2009 06:58 am (UTC)
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Well, I think Ellie's just overreacting to the bachelor party and the pictures. She overreacts to everything so I buy it. And Devon not being able to explain it because he doesn't remember could come off as trying to get out of telling the truth? Except Devon's always seemed pretty ... well, awesome, so it doesn't quite go with what she knows of him. (Except, as I remember it, he does occasionally bring up things like learning to salsa dance, etc., that might indicate he was quite the ladies man before her? I dunno, I'm fanwanking now!!)

Anyway, on another blog someone pointed out... "Remember the McGuffin of what Big Mike expected as a delivery -- a Roark laptop, on national rollout? *That* was the key to why everything was coming to a head. Fulcrum was making its move nationally through Roark."

Does that count as a throwaway that ended up being more important than we realized? I didn't even catch it until it was pointed out to me! (I gathered some pics and videos but haven't dropped them into your post yet, will do that in the morning.)
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From:spectralbovine
Date:April 7th, 2009 07:10 am (UTC)
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"Remember the McGuffin of what Big Mike expected as a delivery -- a Roark laptop, on national rollout? *That* was the key to why everything was coming to a head. Fulcrum was making its move nationally through Roark."
I could not even understand what he was saying. I thought he was telling someone to cover a widows' convention.

Does that count as a throwaway that ended up being more important than we realized?
So I spent the whole episode waiting for a widows' convention to save the day.
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From:raelee
Date:April 7th, 2009 07:18 am (UTC)
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So I spent the whole episode waiting for a widows' convention to save the day.

Heh. I thought in this was in reference to the last episode in which they're expecting a laptop and Orion's laptop gets delivered instead? Maybe I need to re-watch yet again.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:April 7th, 2009 02:42 pm (UTC)
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I thought that laptop had a different name. With numbers and stuff.
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From:pandarus
Date:April 7th, 2009 07:34 am (UTC)
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Oh, everything. Nose rings. Curry. Yoga. Karma.

Well, life is short. Evidently some people are offended by these facets of the whole cultural appropriation thing, which, y'know, being a WASPy person from Blighty, ("Hello, Johnny Foreigner! We have civilization and a jolly nice flag! Also, large guns! Not like you funny barbarian chappies! Now, stop worshipping those funny idols, what, and embrace Victoria as your rightful Empress! Polish our boots! Learn to cook proper food! And we'll be having all your natural resources whilst we're at it, and fucking your womenfolk, but look, you can have cricket! Tally ho!") I pretty much have to respect.

But, no, life is short, so why try to get worked up about it if it doesn't trouble you? It's a bit like me feeling like a bad feminist for loving Supernatural. I mean, yes, okay, gender issues - but SHOW!

...MUST catch up with Heroes.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:April 7th, 2009 02:44 pm (UTC)
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It's a bit like me feeling like a bad feminist for loving Supernatural. I mean, yes, okay, gender issues - but SHOW!
Right! I just can't get worked up over everything because if I did I could not enjoy anything.
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From:gingerwood
Date:April 7th, 2009 12:38 pm (UTC)
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Curry????

I take it that I'm only allowed to eat at indian resturants when properly chaperoned by my indian co-workers? Or am I just not allowed to cook the stuff in the privacy of my own home?

Gah. A lot of the cultural appropriation things I really do get, especially when things that actually require a lot of study to really get become faddish. Cooking? NSM.

If americans wern't allowed to borrow cuisine from other cultures, we'd probably all starve to death.
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From:cerulgalactus
Date:April 7th, 2009 11:50 am (UTC)
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I know I've parted ways with Heroes, because not even Fuller coming back is making me want to watch.
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From:janinedog
Date:April 7th, 2009 07:09 am (UTC)
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Sylar was Danko in that first scene because he needed an excuse to shake Sandra's hand and acquire her DNA (like in Animorphs!). I actually thought Noah was Sylar at first when he met Sandra in the hotel room the first time. But then once I realized what she was saying, I remembered the hand-shake and then I figured it out.

And I totally knew Noah was not just going to accept that Sylar was dead. I'm glad he figured it out, but I'm sad that it Sandra may actually divorce him after all that. :(

Aannnddd I'm totally waiting for an icon of Ando's faaaaaaace to pop up somewhere. :)
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From:spectralbovine
Date:April 7th, 2009 07:12 am (UTC)
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Sylar was Danko in that first scene because he needed an excuse to shake Sandra's hand and acquire her DNA (like in Animorphs!).
Oooh, thanks! Nice catch.

I'm sad that it Sandra may actually divorce him after all that.
I know!! Sylar!Sandra's "I don't love you anymore!" was like a kick in the gut. I don't want real Sandra to kick him in the gut too!

Aannnddd I'm totally waiting for an icon of Ando's faaaaaaace to pop up somewhere. :)
I'm sure there will be many!
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From:sabra_n
Date:April 7th, 2009 08:10 am (UTC)
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I think I know the appropriation essay you're talking about. But was that linked to the Great Appropriation Debate from the SFF community? The one that's been going on for months and exploded into way more wank (and, I have to say, really insightful discussion) than any one human brain can handle? (Plus, thanks to idiot diversionary tactics, it veered into topics like the ethics of Internet anonymity and pseudonimity.) Because that one's really really big, and even kind of poking around the fringes I found it pretty hard not to form some opinions, at least about who's a jackass in the debate.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:April 7th, 2009 02:47 pm (UTC)
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I don't know whether it was linked or not; I was linked to it by a friend. I don't think it really has to do with the SFF community. And, yes, I agree that there has been some insightful discussion, but my brain can't handle all the insight when it's mixed with stuff I want to roll my eyes at.
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From:the_narration
Date:April 7th, 2009 12:56 pm (UTC)
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They have those little ball things at Google, I think. And they dine on sunshine and rainbows and have personal masseuses and get to see all the blockbuster movies two weeks early. That's what I hear about Google.
My company provides security for Google. A guy I was training a couple weeks ago works there sometimes and said that they had free food and sodas which they shared the guards, and that on Fridays one of the guards' duties was unlocking the booze cabinet for the employees' end-of-week parties.

A friend of mine knows a lot of Google people through his work and says that they're all pretty cool.

And I forgot what happened to their mom. Did she die?
Didn't she walk out on them? I thought there was a whole thing on that where they celebrate Mother's Day on the day she ditched instead of in May to remember that they can only rely on each other.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:April 7th, 2009 02:48 pm (UTC)
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Damn, BOTH parents walked out on them? Did she leave first?
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From:the_narration
Date:April 8th, 2009 12:19 am (UTC)
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Damn if I can remember. I went and checked the wiki and it doesn't say either.
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From:harper47
Date:April 7th, 2009 01:50 pm (UTC)
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I really enjoyed Chuck. It was just a "sweet" episode to me, as strange as that sounds. I just felt that there was a lot of emotion bubbling everywhere even among the Buy More employees and it just carried me along.
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From:dotificus
Date:April 7th, 2009 04:59 pm (UTC)
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Your first question has me all thinky, and I don't have time to be thinky. Stop it! But I think I read the post you're referring to, and I didn't get the sense that she was saying or implying POC should feel the same way she did, just that those things upset her.

I LOVED Chuck last night. At first I was worried that it was going to be too mopey, maybe not as mopey as mopey!Buffy, but going down that boring, melodramatic road. But they played it well and I loved it. ESP. the tranq gun.

Hmm, I might have to start watching Heroes again. Hmm.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:April 7th, 2009 05:08 pm (UTC)
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Your first question has me all thinky, and I don't have time to be thinky.
This is always a problem!

I didn't get the sense that she was saying or implying POC should feel the same way she did, just that those things upset her.
True, but whenever I read posts like that, I wonder whether I'm wrong for not being upset. Whether I'm Part of the Problem or something. I am easily influenced by strong opinions.

Hmm, I might have to start watching Heroes again. Hmm.
Hmm!
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From:roxybisquaint
Date:April 8th, 2009 06:53 am (UTC)
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All right, I'm just going to say it. I didn't figure out that Chuck's dad was Orion before the episode. But here's the cute part. My 11 year-old brother did figure it out and he hopped on facebook chat during the first few minutes to tell me his theory that Chuck's dad was Orion. Maybe he read it online somewhere, but just the fact that he was all excited to share a theory about a TV show made me very happy. We're training that boy well :P
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From:spectralbovine
Date:April 8th, 2009 04:03 pm (UTC)
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Hee, that's cute. And, what the hell, you have an 11-year-old brother?

I probably wouldn't have guessed that Orion was Chuck's dad if I hadn't read it.
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From:thetheatremouse
Date:April 9th, 2009 12:19 am (UTC)
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Okay, here is my current problem (it is twofold):
A: The hard drive in my DVR died, thus my scheme to watch all of the current season of Heroes all at once has been dashed; so now I have to wait I'm not sure how long to read back through all your posts on it once I finally see them.
B: I don't watch Chuck.

So I'm left with what you'd think would be minimal comment on this post. BUT I don't know what POC means and cannot glean it from context, and google-defining didn't give me any clues that seem to match your uncut statement.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:April 9th, 2009 12:20 am (UTC)
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Person of Color.
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From:thetheatremouse
Date:April 9th, 2009 01:00 am (UTC)
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Thank you. (I can't tell whether I should feel stupid or not for not knowing that.)
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From:lareinenoire
Date:April 17th, 2009 12:45 am (UTC)
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Oh, my goodness, yes on Heroes (I was stuck in a conference last week so I only just managed to catch up. I love my DVR). That scene between Sylar!Sandra and Bennett was absolutely heartbreaking. The poor guy! And I do feel maybe one iota of pity for Danko, although he's still a horrible human being. And I had to believe Matt wouldn't actually kill Elena, and thankfully he didn't.

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