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05:01 pm - She Didn't Even Ask Me If I Wanted My Penis Enlarged
Wow. I just got the most fascinating and random e-mail.

From a woman studying at the University of Amsterdam.

Because of an IMDb review of Dancer in the Dark I wrote seven years ago.
I’m a student at the University of Amsterdam, and studying at the faculty of Mediastudies. It's quite a long time ago that you’ve posted your movie review on imdb.com about the movie 'Dancer in the Dark' from Lars von Trier. I found it very usefull and detailed. Then I saw you left an email address, so I felt free to mail you a question you may hopefully are able to awnser..

I’m looking for specific movie moments were an actor/actress starts to ‘make music’ or rhythm out of diegetic sounds in the movie.

Did you remember the scene in ‘Dancer in the Dark’ when Selma started dancing to the sounds she heard in the factory? Yeah? Ok. Well lets say that was obviously diegetic sound. But then Selma turns it into music by her imagination, and she starts dancing on it. That’s one example.

There’s a similar scene in Volker Schlondorff’s ‘Die Blechtrommel’. The scene I’m aiming at is the one when Oskar is looking at an marching band playing their drums. Oskar is listening obsessively and filters out his favourite drum rhythm and makes one of his own in his imagination.

Music video’s, commercials or television series were this sort of motifs are present are also very usefull to me.

Well that’s it, hope to hear from you soon.
Anyone have any suggestions? I enjoy this motif anyway, so please link me some examples! Send people over here! I want to collect a big batch to send her. The Internet was made to help Dutch media studies students!

(Unrelatedly, holy God, all my IMDb/Amazon reviews from seven years ago are still floating around on the Internet. Who is that guy? At least I still agree with him that Mission to Mars really, really sucks. (And I didn't even mention the chromosome/nucleotide fiasco!))
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From:smrou
Date:February 13th, 2008 01:06 am (UTC)
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Just moving the link here: the Levis ad.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:February 13th, 2008 01:08 am (UTC)
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Thanks! I remember that one. I didn't realize it was Spike Jonze!
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From:scripted22
Date:February 13th, 2008 01:10 am (UTC)
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I'm not sure if this counts, but I thought of this recent Sprint commercial.

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From:spectralbovine
Date:February 13th, 2008 01:11 am (UTC)
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Oh, nice!
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From:sophia_helix
Date:February 13th, 2008 01:18 am (UTC)
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Hee, that scene in the Spaced episode "Epiphanies" when Tyres is still coming down from his e high and turns a tea whistle and a ringing phone into his own personal rave-beat.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:February 13th, 2008 02:15 am (UTC)
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YES! OF COURSE!!! Oh, Tyres.
From:frush
Date:February 13th, 2008 02:40 pm (UTC)
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I think there's also a scene in a later episode when he's at a crossing and the beep beep from the lights sets him off as well.

Sigh, I miss Spaced.
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From:miniglik
Date:February 13th, 2008 01:25 am (UTC)
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I'm trying to read your post but I can't because my MIND HAS BEEN BLOWN OMG.
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From:miniglik
Date:February 13th, 2008 01:32 am (UTC)
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Okay, now that I can finally process it, I still can't think of any helpful examples.


How old were you 7 years ago? 19? I can't remember exactly how old you are right now. How does 19 (20?) year old Sunil write?
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From:spectralbovine
Date:February 13th, 2008 02:16 am (UTC)
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Well, there are links right there!
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From:miniglik
Date:February 13th, 2008 02:18 am (UTC)
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I am too self absorbed to follow those links right now! It was an empty question!
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From:sterope
Date:February 13th, 2008 01:33 am (UTC)
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From:jennythen
Date:February 13th, 2008 02:08 am (UTC)
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In this clip from The Brave Little Toaster abandoned cars sing along to the sounds of their impending doom.
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From:idreamofpeace
Date:February 13th, 2008 02:58 am (UTC)
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I think one of the songs in "Chicago" follows this motif.
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From:latropita
Date:February 13th, 2008 03:11 am (UTC)
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From:porpentine
Date:February 13th, 2008 03:00 am (UTC)
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There are at least a couple good scenes out of Delicatessen:

Scene One
Scene Two
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From:maka2000
Date:February 13th, 2008 04:47 am (UTC)
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Oh goodness. Such a great movie! I love those examples.
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From:filmtx
Date:February 13th, 2008 03:07 am (UTC)
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Once More With Feeling is an example of diegetic sound/music in film.

From wikipedia:

The "Once More, With Feeling" episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer toys with the concept of non-diegetic versus diegetic music when the characters find themselves compelled to burst into song in the style of a musical. The audience's first critical assumption--that this is a "musical episode" where the Buffy cast is presumably unaware that they are singing--is overturned when it becomes clear that the characters are all too aware of their musical interludes and that determining the supernatural causes for the singing will be the focus of the episode's story. The audience is then forced to abandon one form of suspension of disbelief (i.e. that musical numbers will go unacknowledged by the characters in a musical) in favor of another (that the characters are aware of how unnatural spontaneous singing is in the context of the "real world").

Edited at 2008-02-13 03:10 am (UTC)
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From:spectralbovine
Date:February 13th, 2008 03:12 am (UTC)
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That's not what she's looking for, though. She's looking for diegetic sounds that turn into music.
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From:filmtx
Date:February 13th, 2008 03:26 am (UTC)
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Like in Disney's Tarzan
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From:vespae
Date:February 13th, 2008 06:43 am (UTC)
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Or Disney's "Hi Ho"? (My inner Logan couldn't resist.)
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From:filmtx
Date:February 13th, 2008 01:12 pm (UTC)
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"What did you call me?" (My inner Veronica couldn't resist.)

Or this one from The Little Mermaid.

Edited at 2008-02-13 01:13 pm (UTC)
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From:vespae
Date:February 13th, 2008 02:09 pm (UTC)
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Enough Is Enough! (...from Pinnochio!) :)

You could easily make an entire study on what Disney creates from ambient sound (Fantasia omg!) -- though I'm not sure that's the proper term for it. I know that's not exactly what you're looking for...but it's interesting to me!
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From:jenelope
Date:February 13th, 2008 03:22 pm (UTC)
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"Trashin' the Camp"! I was going to suggest that one.
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From:silentsiren47
Date:February 13th, 2008 03:15 am (UTC)
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The movie August Rush has some of this too.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:February 13th, 2008 03:17 am (UTC)
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Yeah, I can't believe I didn't think of that.
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From:daynr
Date:February 13th, 2008 04:41 am (UTC)
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???
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From:maka2000
Date:February 13th, 2008 04:46 am (UTC)
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Oh, nifty project.

Right now I can only think of one - "Hot Lunch" from the movie Fame.

If I think of any more, I'll post!


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From:glasseseater
Date:February 13th, 2008 05:02 am (UTC)
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In Top Hat (or, uh, Swing Time, maybe?) Fred Astaire takes the sound of a ships pumps and creates a tap dance to the rhythm.

Sorry I know '40 musicals are cheating but Delicatessen was my only other answer.
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From:electricmonk
Date:February 13th, 2008 07:11 am (UTC)
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Oh, I've seen that, I think... is it Shall We Dance? I know in that one he does some dance with the ship workers in the machine room.
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From:glasseseater
Date:February 13th, 2008 08:27 pm (UTC)
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yeah, I realized after I wrote that that it was Shall We Dance, which is why I couldn't find it on you tube.

I don't know why I get those three movies confused, the plots are so distinct.
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From:incidentist
Date:February 13th, 2008 05:26 am (UTC)
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Man, the Internet is old!

/contribution
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From:upanashad
Date:February 13th, 2008 06:25 am (UTC)
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I have nothing to add except: HA!
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From:matchboxslayer
Date:February 13th, 2008 07:10 am (UTC)
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The opening song of the musical movie "Hairspray."

"Get your Head in the Game" - High School Musical. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjjjFvVxHWM


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From:matchboxslayer
Date:February 13th, 2008 07:11 am (UTC)
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wow. gayest comment ever. i'll find more tomorrow at work.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:February 13th, 2008 07:17 am (UTC)
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Ha!
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From:electricmonk
Date:February 13th, 2008 07:12 am (UTC)
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I feel like I must know some, but I can't think of any off the top of my head. Except maybe there's something in RENT? But I'm not sure. And music videos, there must be a million.
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From:vespae
Date:February 13th, 2008 07:29 am (UTC)
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I don't know if this actually counts, since it's not truly organic, but one of my favorite examples is A Knight's Tale's version of We Will Rock You.

Then, of course, there's Pepsi's gladiator ad of the same song with Britney Spears, Pink, and Beyonce.
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From:alliterator
Date:February 13th, 2008 07:39 am (UTC)
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I don't know any scenes, but this is hilarious.
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From:alliterator
Date:February 13th, 2008 07:56 am (UTC)
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Aha! just remembered this Scrubs scene, which is awesome.
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From:r_a_l_i_g_h
Date:February 13th, 2008 03:32 pm (UTC)
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Everyday noises becoming a form of music is a rather common practice in Broadway musicals, many of which are available as movies. One of the ones I remember best is the opening scene of The Music Man.

I don't know if that something she'd be interested in or not.

The Internet was made to help Dutch media studies students!

It really, really was, wasn't it? What would we do without the internet??
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From:grammarwoman
Date:February 13th, 2008 03:37 pm (UTC)
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There's the story behind the Bee Gee's "Jive Talkin'":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jive_talking

And for outright cheating, there's the wiki entry on diegesis itself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diegetic
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From:filmtx
Date:February 13th, 2008 08:56 pm (UTC)

OT, but still interesting (to me, anyway)

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Here's an article about Bjork's new music video "Wanderlust" in Post magazine. Looks wild.
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From:loopychew
Date:February 13th, 2008 10:11 pm (UTC)
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I don't know if the Volkswagen "Synchronicity" ad counts, since it's kind of the reverse effect, in which the music sounds like it should be the the actual noise, but hey.
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From:djhacidic
Date:February 14th, 2008 03:23 pm (UTC)

Zatoichi the Blind Swordsman

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Okay, these are both scenes from Beat Takeshi's version of Zatoichi: The Blind Swordsman.
The Mason's Sequence
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk4oGCPGXz4
The Farmer's Sequence
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkQY08mPHzk&feature=related
Enjoy!
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From:shpyum
Date:February 17th, 2008 01:31 am (UTC)
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Totally won't help, but I just finished reading this series where one of the characters spends all of his time making sort of a symphony out of whatever he hears around them and then telepathically broadcasting it. . .you'd really like the series, it's three sets of three, but the trilogies are conected. They're by Robin Hobb, and the first set is the Farseer trilogy.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:February 17th, 2008 01:37 am (UTC)
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That's way too many books to read, dude! Although the name Robin Hobb sounds familiar.

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