February 12th, 2008
|05:01 pm - She Didn't Even Ask Me If I Wanted My Penis Enlarged|
Wow. I just got the most fascinating and random e-mail.
From a woman studying at the University of Amsterdam.
Because of an IMDb review of Dancer in the Dark I wrote seven years ago.
I’m a student at the University of Amsterdam, and studying at the faculty of Mediastudies. It's quite a long time ago that you’ve posted your movie review on imdb.com about the movie 'Dancer in the Dark' from Lars von Trier. I found it very usefull and detailed. Then I saw you left an email address, so I felt free to mail you a question you may hopefully are able to awnser..Anyone have any suggestions? I enjoy this motif anyway, so please link me some examples! Send people over here! I want to collect a big batch to send her. The Internet was made to help Dutch media studies students!
I’m looking for specific movie moments were an actor/actress starts to ‘make music’ or rhythm out of diegetic sounds in the movie.
Did you remember the scene in ‘Dancer in the Dark’ when Selma started dancing to the sounds she heard in the factory? Yeah? Ok. Well lets say that was obviously diegetic sound. But then Selma turns it into music by her imagination, and she starts dancing on it. That’s one example.
There’s a similar scene in Volker Schlondorff’s ‘Die Blechtrommel’. The scene I’m aiming at is the one when Oskar is looking at an marching band playing their drums. Oskar is listening obsessively and filters out his favourite drum rhythm and makes one of his own in his imagination.
Music video’s, commercials or television series were this sort of motifs are present are also very usefull to me.
Well that’s it, hope to hear from you soon.
(Unrelatedly, holy God, all my IMDb/Amazon reviews from seven years ago are still floating around on the Internet. Who is that guy? At least I still agree with him that Mission to Mars really, really sucks. (And I didn't even mention the chromosome/nucleotide fiasco!))
Current Mood: surprised
Current Music: Stars - Elevator Love Letter
|Date:||February 13th, 2008 01:06 am (UTC)|| |
Thanks! I remember that one. I didn't realize it was Spike Jonze!
Hee, that scene in the Spaced episode "Epiphanies" when Tyres is still coming down from his e high and turns a tea whistle and a ringing phone into his own personal rave-beat.
YES! OF COURSE!!! Oh, Tyres.
|Date:||February 13th, 2008 02:40 pm (UTC)|| |
I think there's also a scene in a later episode when he's at a crossing and the beep beep from the lights sets him off as well.
Sigh, I miss Spaced.
|Date:||February 13th, 2008 01:25 am (UTC)|| |
I'm trying to read your post but I can't because my MIND HAS BEEN BLOWN OMG.
|Date:||February 13th, 2008 01:32 am (UTC)|| |
Okay, now that I can finally process it, I still can't think of any helpful examples.
How old were you 7 years ago? 19? I can't remember exactly how old you are right now. How does 19 (20?) year old Sunil write?
Well, there are links right there!
|Date:||February 13th, 2008 02:18 am (UTC)|| |
I am too self absorbed to follow those links right now! It was an empty question!
|Date:||February 13th, 2008 01:33 am (UTC)|| |
In this clip
from The Brave Little Toaster
abandoned cars sing along to the sounds of their impending doom.
I think one of the songs in "Chicago" follows this motif.
|Date:||February 13th, 2008 04:47 am (UTC)|| |
Oh goodness. Such a great movie! I love those examples.
|Date:||February 13th, 2008 03:07 am (UTC)|| |
Once More With Feeling is an example of diegetic sound/music in film.
The "Once More, With Feeling" episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer toys with the concept of non-diegetic versus diegetic music when the characters find themselves compelled to burst into song in the style of a musical. The audience's first critical assumption--that this is a "musical episode" where the Buffy cast is presumably unaware that they are singing--is overturned when it becomes clear that the characters are all too aware of their musical interludes and that determining the supernatural causes for the singing will be the focus of the episode's story. The audience is then forced to abandon one form of suspension of disbelief (i.e. that musical numbers will go unacknowledged by the characters in a musical) in favor of another (that the characters are aware of how unnatural spontaneous singing is in the context of the "real world").
Edited at 2008-02-13 03:10 am (UTC)
That's not what she's looking for, though. She's looking for diegetic sounds that turn into music.
|Date:||February 13th, 2008 03:26 am (UTC)|| |
|Date:||February 13th, 2008 06:43 am (UTC)|| |
Or Disney's "Hi Ho
"? (My inner Logan couldn't resist.)
|Date:||February 13th, 2008 01:12 pm (UTC)|| |
"What did you call me?" (My inner Veronica couldn't resist.)
Or this one from The Little Mermaid
. Edited at 2008-02-13 01:13 pm (UTC)
|Date:||February 13th, 2008 02:09 pm (UTC)|| |
|(Link)|Enough Is Enough
! (...from Pinnochio
You could easily make an entire study on what Disney creates from ambient sound (Fantasia
omg!) -- though I'm not sure that's the proper term for it. I know that's not exactly what you're looking for...but it's interesting to me!
|Date:||February 13th, 2008 03:22 pm (UTC)|| |
"Trashin' the Camp"! I was going to suggest that one.
The movie August Rush has some of this too.
Yeah, I can't believe I didn't think of that.
|Date:||February 13th, 2008 04:41 am (UTC)|| |
|Date:||February 13th, 2008 04:46 am (UTC)|| |
In Top Hat (or, uh, Swing Time, maybe?) Fred Astaire takes the sound of a ships pumps and creates a tap dance to the rhythm.
Sorry I know '40 musicals are cheating but Delicatessen was my only other answer.
Oh, I've seen that, I think... is it Shall We Dance? I know in that one he does some dance with the ship workers in the machine room.
yeah, I realized after I wrote that that it was Shall We Dance, which is why I couldn't find it on you tube.
I don't know why I get those three movies confused, the plots are so distinct.
Man, the Internet is old!
I have nothing to add except: HA!
wow. gayest comment ever. i'll find more tomorrow at work.
I feel like I must know some, but I can't think of any off the top of my head. Except maybe there's something in RENT? But I'm not sure. And music videos, there must be a million.
|Date:||February 13th, 2008 07:29 am (UTC)|| |
I don't know if this actually counts, since it's not truly organic, but one of my favorite examples is A Knight's Tale
's version of We Will Rock You
Then, of course, there's Pepsi's gladiator ad
of the same song with Britney Spears, Pink, and Beyonce.
I don't know any scenes, but this
Aha! just remembered this Scrubs
scene, which is awesome.
Everyday noises becoming a form of music is a rather common practice in Broadway musicals, many of which are available as movies. One of the ones I remember best is the opening scene of The Music Man
I don't know if that something she'd be interested in or not.The Internet was
made to help Dutch media studies students!
It really, really was, wasn't it? What would we do without the internet??
|Date:||February 13th, 2008 08:56 pm (UTC)|| |
OT, but still interesting (to me, anyway)
Here's an article about Bjork's new music video "Wanderlust" in Post
magazine. Looks wild.
I don't know if the Volkswagen "Synchronicity"
ad counts, since it's kind of the reverse effect, in which the music sounds like it should be the the actual noise, but hey.
|Date:||February 14th, 2008 03:23 pm (UTC)|| |
Zatoichi the Blind Swordsman
|Date:||February 17th, 2008 01:31 am (UTC)|| |
Totally won't help, but I just finished reading this series where one of the characters spends all of his time making sort of a symphony out of whatever he hears around them and then telepathically broadcasting it. . .you'd really like the series, it's three sets of three, but the trilogies are conected. They're by Robin Hobb, and the first set is the Farseer trilogy.
That's way too many books to read, dude! Although the name Robin Hobb sounds familiar.