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November 20th, 2007


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12:42 am - License to Kill, License to Bill, and License to Ill
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Dexter

I said "fuck" about fifteen times during this episode:

OH FUCKING SHIT LILA'S IN THE HOUSE.

OH MY FUCKING GOD LILA TOLD JIMENEZ WHERE DEXTER WAS GOING TO BE.

OH FUCK OH FUCK OH MY FUCKING MOTHERFUCKING FUCK DOAKES FOUND THE FUCKING SLIDES HOLY JESUS FUCK.

The "butcher" thing went completely over my head, but in retrospect, it does seem like a pretty obvious drop to set up Doakes as the Bay Harbor Butcher. I don't know whether Dexter will let him take the fall! Or whether he will maybe kill him! I don't know how this shit is all going to end!

Except that, yeah, Lila's totally going to die, isn't she? She's going to meet the monster. She's probably going to get really dangerous now and likely put Rita and the kids in real danger. I'm glad Dexter's killing again. Good times. THE LILA EXPERIMENT IS OVER. (I liked her more than most at first, but now I kind of hate her for being so pathetic and needy. And for trying to turn Dexter into someone he's not. I really love the way they brought him back; I'm glad Dexter gained some self-awareness. We could all see how bad Lila was for him, but until he started being suspicious of her, he couldn't really see it for himself. It's...just like with regular people in relationships, isn't it.)

Chuck

Aww, they already got rid of Lou? I suspected she wouldn't be around for very long when I saw that Rachel Bilson was a "Special Guest Star," but I thought she'd be around longer than this. I liked her, and I'm glad she was a decent, non-evil girl who makes sandwiches with illegal meat. I loved the "FDA" bit. AS IF. (Oh, and the sandwich sex, while completely predictable, was still amusing. Like the rose gag. And many other gags of that nature.)

I knew Bryce had to come back from the dead! That was too ripe to pass up, especially for Son of Alias. And I love that in the same episode they get rid of Lou, they bring back Bryce. They really love fucking with Chuck and Sarah, don't they? It's terrible!

Heroes

This is me, about 52 minutes into the episode: NO. WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK MOHINDER. MAKE IT BETTER. UNDO IT. FIX IT. I DON'T CARE HOW. SERIOUSLY. IT JUST GRAZED HIM OR SOMETHING. HE'S NOT REALLY DEAD. YOU DID NOT JUST DO THAT.

Really, raise your hand if you thought they would actually kill Bennet to fulfill the painting? I was sure they would end up doing some sort of decoy/lookalike trick, like with Claire. And then when the Mohinder painting came true early, I thought he was safe. And then I thought that the OMFG I heard was about Bennet shooting Bob in the damn head. And then, criminy.

AND THEN CLAIRE'S BLOOD BROUGHT HIM BACK FROM THE MOTHERFUCKING DEAD. I DON'T CARE HOW LITTLE SENSE THAT MAKES SINCE WE HAVE BENNET BACK. EXCEPT HE'S A COMPANY PRISONER AND EVERYONE THINKS HE'S DEAD. THIS WILL BE INTERESTING.

Relatedly, I am completely baffled by Claire's arc this season. Okay, fine, maybe she's just being a teenage girl, but I don't get how she went from OMG I LOVE YOU DAD to I HATE YOU. I mean, didn't she know the things he'd done for the Company last season? This show is so confusing with which people know what things. Surely, she knew her dad had abducted people and all that, back when he was the Face of Evil Except Not Really. Why is she acting like it's news? And why is Sandra? Okay, her brain's mush from the memory wipes, but I thought he'd laid everything out for her after "Company Man."

The point is, as much as I've hated Claire lately (after loving her so much last season, thanks a lot, FUCKING WEST...even though you were kind of cool in this episode, FINALLY), I love her for making a PERIOD OUT OF ROCKS.

So speaking of blonde chicks: Elle!! I will admit, I was not really buying Kristen Bell as a sociopath. She didn't seem to have enough bite. But her character kept getting more interesting (and of course Bob is her dad!), and she was always cool with her use of powers. In this episode, however, she was pretty great, calling Mohinder "Fight Club" and being a hardass about sticking to the plan. And she really rocked the torture scene. I feel like it may have taken a few episodes for Kristen to get comfortable with this new character, so I'm looking forward to future episodes.

I like Matt's descent into moral greyness more than Mohinder's descent into MORAL STUPIDITY (okay, sure, fine, whatever, Bennet kind of threatened to kill him, but...look, there is no rationality where Bennet is concerned). That scene with Angela Petrelli was sweet. I really love what they've done with the older generation; I don't think they've told us nearly enough about what the fucking hell went down back in those days. Fuck Heroes: Origins: Heroes: Generations is the spinoff we want.

I really hope the Kensei reveal wasn't supposed to be surprising to anyone but Hiro. Because...I'm pretty sure they expected us to know that already.

Hey, hold on a second! Go bring D.L. back from the dead! He had the lamest death ever.
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From:latropita
Date:November 20th, 2007 09:14 am (UTC)
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First of all, Go bring D.L. back from the dead! seriously! Season finale death was sweet and meaningful. That one was just stupid.

SPEAKING OF THE OLDER GENERATION, both Angela and Hiro's father have referred to an US with powers. Iiiiinteresting.

Oh, and I totally cracked up at Sandra and Mr. Bennet's exchange about Girls date boys who remind them of their fathers/What, because he can fly? exchange. And I agree, Claire's arc has been obnoxious and nonsensical this season.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:November 20th, 2007 09:16 am (UTC)
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SPEAKING OF THE OLDER GENERATION, both Angela and Hiro's father have referred to an US with powers. Iiiiinteresting.
We never found out what Kaito's power was! Besides swordfighting training montages! And it seems like Angela has the Power of Persuasion, like Eden, based on her scene with Heidi.
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From:spadada
Date:November 21st, 2007 03:07 am (UTC)
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I loved the "because he can fly" comment. So slick someone not paying attention could have missed it.
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From:sabra_n
Date:November 20th, 2007 09:17 am (UTC)
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Relatedly, I am completely baffled by Claire's arc this season.

Arc? What arc? It's an anti-arc, a low-grade copy, at best, of her arc last season. She unlearned everything she learned because West evidently has a secondary power that involves sucking your brain out your ears.

Not that I'm bitter or anything.

-blue
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From:vaspider
Date:November 20th, 2007 12:09 pm (UTC)
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Because teenage girls never act TOTALLY FUCKING SMACKABLY STUPID when they get their First Real Boyfriend(tm).

Just sayin'. Claire is lame this season, but believably lame, IMO.
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From:sabra_n
Date:November 20th, 2007 01:12 pm (UTC)
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I'd feel better if it didn't make everything she did this season seem like a lame rehash of last year. That's just bad television. Also, if she's going to have a boyfriend I'd take Ambiguously Gay Zach any day over Creepy Stalker Boy.

-blue
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From:vaspider
Date:November 20th, 2007 01:25 pm (UTC)
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Oh, without doubt, I love Z. Way Way Better.

On another topic, does anyone else find it fascinating that in a show full of people with Powers, the best showdown is between people without them?
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From:spectralbovine
Date:November 20th, 2007 03:38 pm (UTC)
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I was just thinking, with Hiro's story, how they have managed to create some really interesting characters amidst all this superhero hullabaloo. Like, it's not all flash! There's some good writing in there! Sorta!
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From:vaspider
Date:November 20th, 2007 04:31 pm (UTC)
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I find that as long as I don't expect this to be BSG (aka SERYUS BIZNIZ), and instead view it as a comic, filtering all writerly decisions through "what would be more AWESOME?", I like 99 percent more characters and decisions.

Also, listening to Tiny say "Maaaaaaaatt" warningly at the TV a couple of times, followed by "Oh, no, Matt," when they showed the shot of the picture with the last name (implying that he'd Become His Dad and taken that info from Mama P)... Such enjoyment lets me forgive much.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:November 20th, 2007 04:33 pm (UTC)
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instead view it as a comic, filtering all writerly decisions through "what would be more AWESOME?"
Ha. That's a good filter.

Also, listening to Tiny say "Maaaaaaaatt" warningly at the TV a couple of times, followed by "Oh, no, Matt," when they showed the shot of the picture with the last name (implying that he'd Become His Dad and taken that info from Mama P)... Such enjoyment lets me forgive much.
Aw!! How old is he? That's pretty subtle of him to catch.
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From:vaspider
Date:November 20th, 2007 04:49 pm (UTC)
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Hee! He's 31. Tiny is my husband's nickname, on account of him being 6'8". :) All giant-sized men must be nicknamed Tiny. It's practically a law. :)
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From:spectralbovine
Date:November 20th, 2007 05:13 pm (UTC)
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Oooh. I confused him with the little monster.
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From:vaspider
Date:November 20th, 2007 05:20 pm (UTC)
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Hee. Perfectly understandable. TM (short for The Monster) is 7 -- a little young for Heroes yet.
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From:spadada
Date:November 21st, 2007 03:07 am (UTC)
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I miss Ambiguously Gay Zach! He was my favorite guest star.
From:wee_warrior
Date:November 20th, 2007 10:24 am (UTC)
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I love her for making a PERIOD OUT OF ROCKS.

I can't tell you how much I adored this. I've been incredibly annoyed with Claire this season, but the PERIOD OF ROCKS almost made up for it. (Now if only she could dump the tool. Why couldn't it be May at least? She is cute. And can act. [Erm, sorry for ranting all over your journal.])

I really hope the Kensei reveal wasn't supposed to be surprising to anyone but Hiro. Because...I'm pretty sure they expected us to know that already.

I think they meant us to wonder whether it was Adam himself who killed him, or Peter, but since David Anders was in the credits while Milo Ventimiglia wasn't, they pretty much sabotaged that, anyway.

Hey, hold on a second! Go bring D.L. back from the dead! He had the lamest death ever.

I'm pretty sure there has to be a catch somewhere. If Nathan already goes off the rails by just getting healed due to Adam's blood, who knows what happens when you RAISE THE DEAD. (Also, does that make Bennet a zombie now?)
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From:spectralbovine
Date:November 20th, 2007 03:36 pm (UTC)
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I can't tell you how much I adored this. I've been incredibly annoyed with Claire this season, but the PERIOD OF ROCKS almost made up for it.
It was so adorable. It was like manatees all over again.

Why couldn't it be May at least? She is cute. And can act.
What, who? Who's May?

I'm pretty sure there has to be a catch somewhere. If Nathan already goes off the rails by just getting healed due to Adam's blood, who knows what happens when you RAISE THE DEAD. (Also, does that make Bennet a zombie now?)
Oh, shit, did he COME BACK WRONG?
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From:spadada
Date:November 21st, 2007 03:11 am (UTC)
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If Nathan already goes off the rails by just getting healed due to Adam's blood
Interesting. I never made the connection. I assumed it was his grief that caused his hallucinations and drinking.
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From:vaspider
Date:November 20th, 2007 12:08 pm (UTC)
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Why is she acting like it's news?

Because now it's happened to someone she cares about. What Daddy Did is no longer an abstract Thing That Happened Over There.

And! I thought it very interesting that what I said to Tiny about Elle being basically Claire's Evil Twin (metaphorically) has pretty much come to pass. Pretty blonde girls with powers: check. Daddy who worked for the company: check. Daddy who protected girl from experimentation: Claire. Daddy who didn': Elle.

Also, no, I don't think the reveal for Kensei was supposed to really surprise anyone but Hiro - when we saw the nose/mouth of the figure in profile as he was about to jump Nakamura Sr., my husband said, 'Yep, totally Kensei.'

Also! Has anyone else noticed that the Adam/Peter matchup features the name of the First Man (as the first hero) and the First Man of the Church (as der uberhero)? I doubt they'll do anything with that, but I don't think that's unintentional.

P.S. I really thought they'd kill Bennett. I'm really glad they didn't.
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From:unseenlibrarian
Date:November 20th, 2007 02:58 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking: they knew it intellectually, but it never really hit home until they met someone he'd kidnapped that -remembered it-.

Which, speaking of, is an interesting question. Why does TFD remember?


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From:spectralbovine
Date:November 20th, 2007 03:39 pm (UTC)
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That Fucking Douche?

Or...The Flying Douche?
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From:unseenlibrarian
Date:November 20th, 2007 06:45 pm (UTC)
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The latter. It's his nickname on the RPG.net forums and I kind of refer to him by it by default without thinking.

I actually liked him last night.

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From:spectralbovine
Date:November 20th, 2007 06:56 pm (UTC)
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Oh, me too. He finally proved useful and slightly likable.

Slightly.
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From:vaspider
Date:November 20th, 2007 05:25 pm (UTC)
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1. The Haitian had Some Reason.
2. The Haitian is human after all, and made a mistake.
3. PLOT!

Also, am I the only one who likes Wes even a little?
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From:spectralbovine
Date:November 20th, 2007 03:39 pm (UTC)
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Also! Has anyone else noticed that the Adam/Peter matchup features the name of the First Man (as the first hero) and the First Man of the Church (as der uberhero)? I doubt they'll do anything with that, but I don't think that's unintentional.
Ooh, interesting.
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From:the_partyman
Date:November 20th, 2007 01:08 pm (UTC)
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I've spent the last 6 minutes unable to utter anything but "HOLY FUCK!!!"

So good to see Heroes back in full-on exclaimation mark territory!
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From:harper47
Date:November 20th, 2007 01:16 pm (UTC)
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Heroes kicked so much ass last night that I'm still reeling. I'm exactly like you. I was No! And the word awesome kept coming out of my mouth involuntarily. Seriously great show.

I think KB did a better job last night. I think with the whole "this is what happened to you as a child" conversation they were trying to give her some layers. Which worked somewhat. I still feel like she is overacting the "I'm a badass hero" bit. But, you are right that she was better last night.

Loved this show. And a cliffhanger that truly rocked. Finally.
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From:afrocurl
Date:November 20th, 2007 02:52 pm (UTC)
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As I watched Bennett and Elle both get shot, I had this feeling that it was bad, but the part of me that understands fandom as a whole knew that Bennett would be beck somehow (though, part of me is weirded out by Claire's blood being used, but whatever.)

I think we were all supposed to figure out that Adam killed Kaito once we knew he wasn't dead.
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From:seawench
Date:November 20th, 2007 03:14 pm (UTC)
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Last night was just an awesome night of television. Slapsgiving anyone?

If they don't tell us what Kaito and Angela's powers are soon (one's been around since the first episode and the other has died on screen twice now. seriously), I may be forced to throw things at the tv.

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From:daynr
Date:November 20th, 2007 03:37 pm (UTC)
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Ok, for clarification, it looked like Matt did take the final woman's name from Angela, right? I couldn't be arsed to get off the couch to confirm that she now had a name in the picture.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:November 20th, 2007 03:41 pm (UTC)
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Yep. Her name is Victoria Pratt. Matt totally Went There.
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From:daynr
Date:November 20th, 2007 04:09 pm (UTC)
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And does that name mean anything to us?
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From:spectralbovine
Date:November 20th, 2007 04:12 pm (UTC)
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Not that I know of.
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From:mutinousmuse
Date:November 20th, 2007 07:39 pm (UTC)
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I totally thought they were really going to kill Bennet. They had me completely sold. I almost wish they'd saved the he's aliiiiiiiive reveal for a later episode so I could have wallowed more. Definitely my favorite episode so far this season.
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From:soundingsea
Date:November 21st, 2007 02:54 am (UTC)
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Maybe Claire will become way less annoying when she's mourning her non-dead dad? *is hopeful*

Fuck Heroes: Origins: Heroes: Generations is the spinoff we want.

Hells yeah!
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From:spadada
Date:November 21st, 2007 03:05 am (UTC)
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I hate DL, so I hope they don't bring him back, but man was I glad Noah wasn't really dead.

Claire sucks. And honestly, so did Hayden last night. Bad episode for her. OK ep for KB (liked last week better). AWESOME ep for Greg Grunberg and the woman who plays Angela Petrelli. Those were my favorite scenes and I am really glad that Parkman "went there" with the mind control. Because who could resist? Even if you were as sweet as Matt...

Hell yeah on the anti-climactic Adam reveal. Anna and I were bitching about it via IM this afternoon.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:November 21st, 2007 06:53 am (UTC)
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I really wonder about the intention. It had to be just for Hiro's benefit, and it's an easy way for him to find out, but...how else could they have played it so it didn't look like a reveal to the audience, too? Because did they seriously think they hadn't basically told us already?

A) Kensei can regenerate.
B) Adam Monroe is the one behind the killings.
C) Kensei is Adam Monroe.

I mean...Socrates, yo.
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From:upanashad
Date:November 21st, 2007 06:12 pm (UTC)
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My spec about Dexter, without seeing the previews or reading anything on TWoP, is that Lila is going to find out Doakes has evidence against Dexter, and kill Doakes to protect Dexter, in order to try to win him back and show how much she loves him. And then maybe everyone will think Doakes was the Bay Harbor Butcher, especially if they find the blood samples in his house after Lila burns him up. That way Doakes will take the fall without Dexter having to get his hands dirty and break The Code.

Maybe.

Although part of me wants Dexter to get caught, because that would be so unexpected.

And I don't think Lila was totally bad for Dexter. She sort of freed him up a little bit. He took it too far, but I think being accepted and being able to be himself was good. Although it's interesting and kind of tragic that Dexter will only be able to show his true self to crazy people like Rudy and Lila, and it will always backfire on him and put his life in danger. But I like the way he keeps dipping into those waters, and feeling some freedom, some other possibilities, and then having to revert to the way he knows how to survive, because the new way is too dangerous. It's very true I think to how people grow and change, and Dexter has this need to grow, to know himself, which I think keeps his character accessible, no matter how many horrible things he does. Ultimately, he wants to be normal, he's just too fucked up.

Okay, rant over. How fucking squicky was that scene with Lundy and Deb when he SLAPPED HER ASS? AAHHHH
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From:spectralbovine
Date:November 21st, 2007 07:40 pm (UTC)
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Ooh, that's an interesting spec about Lila killing Doakes! Huh. Smartiepants.

Oh, Dexter.
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From:soleta_nf
Date:December 3rd, 2007 03:49 pm (UTC)
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I liked her more than most at first, but now I kind of hate her for being so pathetic and needy.

Agreed. I really loved her at first, and now - not so much.

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