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September 25th, 2007


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12:18 am - I Think My Viewpoint Is Needed on the Internet
Tonight, I got to have the rare experience of watching Monday night television with an LJ friend! mutinousmuse and I had dinner first, where I discovered larb, which is like taking ground chicken and soaking it in salt for a week. Then we went back to her apartment, where I was attacked by her extremely hyper dogs but not accosted by her very mellow cat or her two caged lizards. It's quite a menagerie in there.

Luckily, she had been so offline as to have not even known of the existence of all the Office goodies at Target, so she was extremely pleased with the Dwight stress ball and assortment of "I ♥ Jim" paraphernalia I had brought her, the latter of which totally matched her computer's desktop.

We waited for her husband to come home, and then it was time for the much-loved Chuck!

Chuck

I must admit I was really not feeling it at first. There was too much of a disconnect between the supercool spy action and the awkward, not-that-funny nerd action. I did have to give them fucking props for the Zork reference, though. That was fucking awesome.

I became a little more intrigued by the way they showed Chuck's implanted memories. I liked that they were triggered by certain things, and I was amused by the constant shot of that frickin' pie. I...have doubts as to how this works as a premise at all, though. He doesn't even get superspy moves. He just gets...a finicky computer bank. This is not as Jake 2.0 as I thought.

Another interesting aspect was that the central conflict involves two of our own government agencies working against each other. I thought that was neat; I had expected there to be outside interference involved. But, no, we can fight among ourselves just fine.

Sarah looks so much like Olivia Wilde, and yet she is not. But she is still hot, so it all works out. Also, she is a ninja. A totally awesome ninja. That thing with the emergency barricade was FUCKING SWEET. At that point, I decided it might be worth watching the show just to see her do cool ninja stuff. Perhaps even in her underwear.

As the episode progressed, the atonality sort of fixed itself, and I think there was a good mix by the end.

Adam Baldwin is your go-to guy for...that character he always plays.

I loved the way Chuck defused the bomb, but I was really expecting there to be more of a connection between the SERBIAN terrorist and the SERBIAN porn star. That seemed like a random, distracting coincidence. I don't even know where Serbia is.

I was not sold on Zachary Levi, and I'm still not in love with him, but the moment where he walked away from both of them with an assertive "You need me" was great and made me like the character a lot.

I'm not feeling the sidekick at all. He's dull. Tyler Labine on Reaper has now spoiled me for sidekicks of disaffected twentysomething characters who are suddenly given too much responsibility.

The show has potential, but I didn't love it as much as I thought I would. I feel like if you took Chuck and Reaper and smushed them together, you'd have a great show, because they both have a lot of potential despite flawed pilots. I guess we'll have to wait till the second episode to see how this goes.

And then it was time for a Nissan commercial!!

Heroes

I found it to be a very satisfying premiere. It wasn't balls-out awesome, but there was cool stuff as always.

So, Hiro in Japan. I knew David Anders was Takezo Kensei, but I didn't know they were doing the ol' "When you meet your idol, he turns out to be a drunken hooligan" plot. Erin's husband put forth the idea that Hiro will become Takezo Kensei, and I think that's where this story has to be going. It has one of three outcomes:

A) Hiro becomes Takezo Kensei.
B) Hiro actually does all the shit but lets Takezo Kensei take the credit.
C) Hiro teaches Takezo Kensei the true meaning of being a hero, which we already went through last year with Ando and Hiro, so let's not choose option C, okay?

I hate Claire's stupid new love interest guy or whatever. He comes off as a condescending jerk with his alien/robot schtick (even though I found it a moderately interesting way of dichotomozing society), especially because he doesn't even stick to it. How the hell is hiding the fact that you're smart robot behavior? Wouldn't pleasing the teacher be far more robotic? Also, is Claire going to school with MORONS? They're in junior year and have never heard of Darwin?

And what the hell, he can fly? He looks like Peter fucking Pan. And why are they giving him the same power as Nathan? And, indirectly, Peter? Do we really need one more frying man?

I still heart Claire, though. And Mr. Bennet is still awesome. Secret plan to take down the Company! With Mohinder who is showing surprising signs of lack of stupidity!

Bonus: STEPHEN TOBOLOWSKY HAS THE POWER OF ALCHEMY THE MIDAS TOUCH.

At first, I thought Molly was dreaming of Voldemort, but from her pictures of a man with the godsend symbol right between the eyes, it's clear she's dreaming of evil Harry Potter.

Aw, Parkman. He's a real cop now. And a single dad! I wonder what'll happen with his baby. And Nathan's family is gone, too? Heidi and the kids? I guess we're jettisoning supporting characters to make room for all the new ones?

And while we're on that subject, let's thank Alejandro and Maya for adding to the subtitle count! Take that, Diversity Police! Now, it seems Maya has the power to induce promicin death. I wonder why Alejandro remains unaffected, though, and what his power is. Because you know he has a power. We haven't seen an unpowered sibling yet. (It would be hilarious if his power were simply immunity to promicin death.)

Back to Nathan. And his beard. Erin astutely noticed him bumping into Ando, which was cool. I...basically have no idea what the fuck his deal is. What happened? Did people think he died? What happened to his congressional seat? Is he supposed to be in hiding? Why is he still a jackass to Claire?

By far, the most interesting new plotline is the mysterious assassinations of the elder generation. Kaito listed three deaths: Charles Deveaux, Linderman, and Papa Petrelli. Thing is, we know how Linderman died, and there was nothing conspiratorial about it. We know Papa Petrelli didn't commit suicide, and that's about it. We know Charles Deveaux just sort of...got old. Wait, I think I may have misinterpreted him. I hope he wasn't insinuating any foul play in their deaths. I think what he meant was that they weren't suspects.

So there were Twelve, and now there are Nine, leaving Seven potential suspects we have no clue about. I assume the Twelve were behind the planning of the Plot to Blow Up New York. And I don't think we have any clues as to who the unexpected assassin is. Or what the hell Hiro's dad power was, besides the ability to teach swordfighting via montage. I thought the marked photos were a nice touch.

And then there's Peter, still alive after exploding and randomly in fucking Ireland for no discernible reason with no idea who he was, wearing a strange piece of jewelry. They're pulling an Angel on us! What did he shoot out of his hand? Was that new? Or was that just a radiation fireball?

In conclusion, WHERE WAS TY LEE?
Current Mood: satisfiedsatisfied
Current Music: Arcade Fire - Neighborhood #1 (Tunnels) [in my head]

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From:cerulgalactus
Date:September 25th, 2007 07:23 am (UTC)
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I am downloading them both as we speak, and should have my much loved insane TV Time review up tomorrow morning.

I also checked out The Sarah Connor Chronicles this morn, and (as of right now) it's being added to my ticket. Who knows if it will stay there though.
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From:mcfeste
Date:September 25th, 2007 08:27 am (UTC)
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I too am giving Chuck some more time before I decide. I did like Zachary Levi, but I agree that the sidekick was lame.

And then it was time for a Nissan commercial!!

Snerk. For real.

I had the same thoughts about Hiro possibly becoming Kensei, or at least doing all the stuff Kensei is credited with. The fun part will be if it turns out Kaito knew all along that Hiro was Kensei. Brain tease!

And why are they giving him the same power as Nathan?

I read an interview with Tim Kring where he was asked if they would ever run out of special powers for characters, and surprisingly, he said yes. Basically he said, and I agree, that there are only a handful of really cool powers, and after that it's just permutations. Also, he said that it doesn't particularly make sense that of all the mutants/heroes in the world, only one can fly, or only one can become invisible, etc.

So I don't know why they chose flying for West's ability, but as a friend of mine pointed out, it could make Claire's daddy issues that much more fucked up. Heh.

I am totally calling Stephen Tobolowsky's character "Midas" in my head, since we don't know his name yet.

We haven't seen an unpowered sibling yet.

Mohinder is an unpowered sibling, as far as we know. And we don't know if Hiro's sister has a power. Seems like Kaito would have mentioned it to Hiro by now if she did. All the same, I'm sure Alejandro will turn out to have something.

I'm at a loss about Nathan as well. And I'm all psyched to figure out what the hell is up with Peter. Whatever it is, it promises to be fucking awesome.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:September 25th, 2007 02:14 pm (UTC)
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The fun part will be if it turns out Kaito knew all along that Hiro was Kensei. Brain tease!
Ooh! That...would not make a lot of sense, though, would it? Especially with his assertion just now that he thought Hiro was a loser until about four months ago.

Also, he said that it doesn't particularly make sense that of all the mutants/heroes in the world, only one can fly, or only one can become invisible, etc.
No, I agree. It's just that it IS kinda weird that her new love interest has the same power as her dad and her uncle.

Mohinder is an unpowered sibling, as far as we know. And we don't know if Hiro's sister has a power.
Crap, you're right! I had this feeling I was wrong there.

And I'm all psyched to figure out what the hell is up with Peter. Whatever it is, it promises to be fucking awesome.
Did you watch the promo? Looks pretty crazy!
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From:idreamofpeace
Date:September 25th, 2007 08:54 am (UTC)
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I'm ALREADY on tv overload and I've only watched four shows this week (I still have two TiVo'd from today and the whole week is yet to come AND I'm going to be gone this weekend so no catching up! How am I going to do it!).

So, I LOVED Chuck. I liked the crazy mix of comedy and spy action. I'm in love with Zachary Levi. He reminds me a bit of John Krasinski and he makes me melt (BTW, after two trips to Target for assorted stuff, I've come away with three Office items and want MORE).

Having JUST finished season 1 of Heroes (love, love, LOVE), I really liked the premiere. BUT, the whole Matt doesn't care about his unborn child thing is pissing me off. That was such a huge deal for him last year. Stupid loose ends. It doesn't bother me that Nathan's family is gone because he never seemed to care about them, but Parkman really loved his fam. Anyway, I'm stoked to watch the season as it airs.

In other news, HIMYM continues to be awesome and The Big Bang was unbelievably stupid and I love Johnny Galecki. It was awkward and bad and... just bad.

Still haven't watched Journeyman or K-Ville from tonight. I did, however, watch two episodes of Little Einsteins. Sigh.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:September 25th, 2007 02:15 pm (UTC)
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(BTW, after two trips to Target for assorted stuff, I've come away with three Office items and want MORE).
Three? I bought TEN for myself. Hee.

The Big Bang was unbelievably stupid and I love Johnny Galecki. It was awkward and bad and... just bad.
Yeah, that's what I heard.
From:wee_warrior
Date:September 25th, 2007 09:37 am (UTC)
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- Claire's future bf can fly so that she will see parallels to Nathan and Peter and implicitly trust him more than she otherwise would. At least that's my guess.

- Nathan has a beard and is drinking because he is depressed. That's possibly also why he doesn't have a wife, kids and a congress seat. As promised, he threw it all away because Peter is gone. Oh, and presumably because he sees freaky hallucinations in his mirror. (I also thought he was comparatively friendly to Claire, given that this apparently wasn't the first time she called him. It's more of a relationship than they had last season!)

- As for Matt, right now I am suspecting they simply discovered the baby wasn't his but his partner's, and that, and the rest, just drove them apart. (Which - seriously, is anyone really worked up about that? It was one of the most-hated storylines last season. I'm way more disappointed that Heidi is gone, although good on her for being sensible.)
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From:missquita
Date:September 25th, 2007 12:28 pm (UTC)
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seriously, is anyone really worked up about that?

Word.
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From:tibicina
Date:September 25th, 2007 09:55 am (UTC)
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Alejandro /could/ be a super-power-dampener. Because really, if you've got a sister who randomly psychically kills people (or at least randomly psychically kills people when upset, apparently in some radius and without her volition), having a brother who turns powers off around himsef would be helpful. And would esplain why he was going 'you don't know what you're doing' when they were leaving him and taking her.
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From:missquita
Date:September 25th, 2007 12:29 pm (UTC)
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having a brother who turns powers off around himsef would be helpful

That would also be a helpful power for Peter to absorb should he end up fighting Sylar again.
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From:jeeperstseepers
Date:September 25th, 2007 10:55 am (UTC)
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Erin's husband put forth the idea that Hiro will become Takezo Kensei, and I think that's where this story has to be going.

I said that almost as soon as we even learned about the existence of Kensei last season!

My problem with Chuck is that he's not so much a nerd at all. I'm glad he didn't get superspy moves along with all that info in his brain; I hadn't been expecting him to, but if he had, I'd have been sad. I liked the disconnect between Normal Chuck and superspy Bryce at the beginning.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:September 25th, 2007 02:18 pm (UTC)
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I said that almost as soon as we even learned about the existence of Kensei last season!
Yeah, one of my early theories was that Kensei was an ancestor of Hiro's, so this is just a hop away from that.

I liked the disconnect between Normal Chuck and superspy Bryce at the beginning.
Superspy Bryce was AWESOME! Kicking people around and jumping through windows and shit! Too bad Jayne shot him. Ass.
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From:sabra_n
Date:September 25th, 2007 11:40 am (UTC)
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Adam Baldwin is your go-to guy for...that character he always plays.

I saw the last 5 minutes of Chuck and yelled, "JAYNE" and no one knew what I was talking about. I was a bit sad.

Also, is Claire going to school with MORONS? They're in junior year and have never heard of Darwin?

I made noises to that effect while watching and my friends presented two possibilities-

-"You've never been to a crappy public school." Erm, possible.
-"The question is so stupid they're not bothering with it." Also possible, I guess.

-blue

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From:missquita
Date:September 25th, 2007 11:53 am (UTC)
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But Creepy High School Loverboy can fly. He knows she's different.

Erin and I couldn't believe the commercials either. I mean, put something in between!
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From:missquita
Date:September 25th, 2007 12:30 pm (UTC)
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P.S. No more emo hair for Peter. Milo is looking hot!
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From:ocvictor
Date:September 25th, 2007 12:03 pm (UTC)
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Also, is Claire going to school with MORONS? They're in junior year and have never heard of Darwin?

You really haven't spent much time with teenagers lately, have you? They largely don't participate in class if they don't have to. Seriously, I'll bet half the room knew the answer and didn't raise their hand. (Because, really. The question wasn't that tough, and Claire's no brainiac.)
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From:spectralbovine
Date:September 25th, 2007 02:20 pm (UTC)
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No, I'll buy that no one bothered to raise their hand. But then it seemed weird to make it a big deal that Claire actually knew the answer, implying that no one else actually knew the answer, like West was supposed to be impressed with her and her alone.
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From:vaspider
Date:September 26th, 2007 12:49 am (UTC)
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It was, after all, the fact that Mohinder was his sister's, um, brother (I can't remember the sister's name, sorry) that allowed him to use his blood to heal Molly last season. That makes perfect sense.
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From:gymble
Date:September 25th, 2007 01:48 pm (UTC)
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I kind of adored Chuck. I'm still worried about premise, but I liked that the show didn't take itself too seriously. And ninjas! Whee!

They're in junior year and have never heard of Darwin?
Of course they have; they just didn't want to answer the question. No one ever answers questions in high school unless they have to.

Do we really need one more frying man?
No. Nor do we need another flying man. Although we do possibly need a new guy to thoroughly fuck up Claire's life. It's far too stable right now. Well, except for HRG working to take down the company, and terrorizing his pint-sized boss, and generally hiding from everyone. But besides that, totally stable.

Why is he still a jackass to Claire?
Because Nathan's always a jackass. I hope we get some exposition about him; I'm confused.

Poor Hiro.

let's thank Alejandro and Maya for adding to the subtitle count!
I liked them. They seem to be a good addition.
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From:eirefaerie
Date:September 25th, 2007 02:06 pm (UTC)
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I'm still trying to figure out why they were taking a side trip to HMS Beagle during Chem class at Claire's school. And if they WERE in Bio, not Chem, why the hell were they playing with the bunson burners? In fact, why the hell were they lighting the bunson burners ANYWAY because apparently all they were doing was letting them flame away for no reason.

I am mostly over Heroes (have been since about halfway last season) but I loved seeing Mr. Claire's Dad working at the paper store. HA HA HA. Also, it's interesting to see that David Anders has TWO british accents in his repertoire.
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From:spectralbovine
Date:September 25th, 2007 02:21 pm (UTC)
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I'm still trying to figure out why they were taking a side trip to HMS Beagle during Chem class at Claire's school.
YES! TURN ON YOUR BUNSEN BURNERS, LET'S TALK ABOUT DARWIN WTF.
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From:r_a_l_i_g_h
Date:September 25th, 2007 02:33 pm (UTC)
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I don't even know where Serbia is.
Next to Bosnia-Herzigova.

(They're both part of the former Yugoslavia - in the Baltic states, North of the Adriatic Sea.)

but from her pictures of a man with the godsend symbol right between the eyes, it's clear she's dreaming of evil Harry Potter.
Hee!

(Although - guttural whispers, scary soundeffects, "I can seeeeeeee you", flaming eyes .... It's clearly Sauron)
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From:spectralbovine
Date:September 25th, 2007 02:46 pm (UTC)
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Next to Bosnia-Herzigova.

(They're both part of the former Yugoslavia - in the Baltic states, North of the Adriatic Sea.)

Aha! One of those relatively new countries in the grand scheme of things. Thanks.

(Although - guttural whispers, scary soundeffects, "I can seeeeeeee you", flaming eyes .... It's clearly Sauron)
Ha!
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From:miniglik
Date:September 25th, 2007 02:36 pm (UTC)
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I didn't feel Chuck as much as I thought I would either, although I'm not sure that it was rectified as the episode progressed (for me). Part of it may have been the atonality, you're right.

Kaito listed three deaths: Charles Deveaux, Linderman, and Papa Petrelli. Thing is, we know how Linderman died, and there was nothing conspiratorial about it. We know Papa Petrelli didn't commit suicide, and that's about it. We know Charles Deveaux just sort of...got old. Wait, I think I may have misinterpreted him. I hope he wasn't insinuating any foul play in their deaths.

The line was written or delivered weird. I think it was almost a retcon to make us think "the twelve" are marked men people. But that's weird because the ones we saw die WEREN'T through assassination.

And, no. In conclusion, where was Iroh?
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From:spectralbovine
Date:September 25th, 2007 02:48 pm (UTC)
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Iroh was locked in a prison cell somewhere. I understood that absence.

Part of it may have been the atonality, you're right.
There's definite tonal whiplash in the first half hour as the spy stuff and the nerd stuff were COMPLETELY SEPARATE. But once they merged, it got better.

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